Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Scump
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The result was no consensus defaulting to keep and w/o prejudice to a future renomination. Ad Orientem (talk) 03:04, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
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All are unreliable sources/non notable person.--121.148.2.133
Procedural nomination on behalf of IP 121.148.2.133 Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 18:08, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
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*Delete As a Nominator, Topic has no reliable sources. 180.12.211.4 (talk) 22:39, 12 November 2019 (UTC) blocked
*Delete. Lacks of sources and all the contents are just trivia. BoneHeadHuman (talk) 13:01, 13 November 2019 (UTC) blocked sockpuppet
- Checkuser note: Every !vote above including the IP nominator is either an open proxy, or a banned user, or both. -- zzuuzz (talk) 15:47, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
- Procedural close for this bad nomination. A single purpose IP addresses can not nominate a group of articles for deletion, and you shouldn't do it for them. Since the only ones appearing to try to delete it are now blocked sock puppets, kindly close this bad nomination. Dream Focus 05:58, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
- Dream Focus, well there is no such rule that I can find that prevents IP from nominating articles. Even if we later ban them, I think they should be left open until there is a clear "keep" consensus. If you wish to change the rules, hold a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 12:29, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
- Fine. Then Keep [1] "The most popular player in Call of Duty, Scump finally won his first world championship in 2017". Winning the world championship in a notable competition and making $652,140 from this, makes him notable. Google news search shows a lot of results to go through, but not bothering since winning the championship alone makes him notable. Dream Focus 22:20, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
- Dream Focus, WP:BLP1E? --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 23:49, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
- They get coverage for more than just that one tournament win. Hit Google news search at the top of the AFD. Dream Focus 00:39, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
- Dream Focus, WP:BLP1E? --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 23:49, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
- Fine. Then Keep [1] "The most popular player in Call of Duty, Scump finally won his first world championship in 2017". Winning the world championship in a notable competition and making $652,140 from this, makes him notable. Google news search shows a lot of results to go through, but not bothering since winning the championship alone makes him notable. Dream Focus 22:20, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
- Dream Focus, well there is no such rule that I can find that prevents IP from nominating articles. Even if we later ban them, I think they should be left open until there is a clear "keep" consensus. If you wish to change the rules, hold a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 12:29, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
- Delete A lot of the sources provided are unreliable like YouTube, Call of Duty Esports Wiki, Twitter (although some of them are justified since it is the Abner's Twitter but still does not establish notability) per WP:RSP. Most of the other sources are small mentions. Some of the sources do not even mention him like the Scuf Gaming source. Therefore does not establish signficant and thus fails WP:GNG. Spy-cicle💥 Talk? 14:04, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Based on the two post-checkuser !votes
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Nosebagbear (talk) 19:21, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
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- Keep [2]] Seems to be a bit of a whale on social media. 2.5 million followers on Twitter, 4.15 million followers on Youtube. scope_creepTalk 16:21, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
undefined*:Scope creep, social media presence doesn't automatically means notability. He would need to pass the WP:GNG first. --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 16:51, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
- When somebody has that number of followers, which are verified and close to the population of Scotland, and their videos have been played more than 520million times, then they are notable in anybody's book. That is coverage. They don't play themselves. It is unfortunate the subject works in a industry that is still fairly new, probably less than five years, but it is undergoing stellar growth. I did find a ref on Reuters which combined with what's there already makes WP:THREE references. It is sufficient. scope_creepTalk 17:55, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
- I don't view WP:BLP1E as applying here. This is the man's career and the work he has done is consistent with a career. scope_creepTalk 18:09, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
- Keep This is not in my wheelhouse, but I can see that the player is plenty notable. Perhaps passes WP:ANYBIO for awards and WP:GNG for coverage. I have to wonder idf the Nominator did a WP:BEFORE. Esports Earnings, Red Bull, Top Ten Highest Earning Player, Venture Beat, He is Called a World Champion covered on ESPN, One ES Sports, Paste Magazine. Lightburst (talk) 15:49, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
- Lightburst, nominated on behalf of IP... --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 20:56, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
- This local news profile is the only source I've seen which is definitely reliable and definitely significant coverage. There is an ESPN mention to go with the interview. I'm not sure which of those e-sports sites listed are reliable, I'm not convinced WP:GNG is met, I'm not voting either way since only a couple of them need to be reliable but the article desperately needs to be updated if it's kept, as only one of the 20 sources is credible at all. Call of Duty Wikis? Youtube? Tweets? A list of everyone who graduated in his high school class? That's what you'll get from the current sources! Needs to be tagged for cleanup. SportingFlyer T·C 10:40, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. Cites unreliable sources such as wikis and tweets. If notable, about which I have no opinion, needs total recreation based on reliable sources. Sandstein 15:41, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
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