Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Science Fiction South Africa

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep Naconkantari 20:30, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Science Fiction South Africa

I was considering Prodding this one, but I'm not certain about it. Although "The oldest science fiction society in South Africa" is a claim of notability, it's very short, doesn't have any sources, and links only to its own website. If someone can find more material, then I don't have any problem with it, but I don't think it should be kept as it is now. – Gurch 14:45, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Retain - Added a bit more data from the Web, to verify that the organization is legit. In fact, it's about the only contact with SF fandom in Africa that the rest of the world has. It's obscure, but within the world of science fiction fandom outside the U.S. it has a certain notability. --Orange Mike 16:31, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep This is a tough one as realistically none of the citations (even with Orangemike's additions) really provide much in the way of justifiable notability beyond it being the oldest. That said -- the oldest science fiction society in any nation realistically has SOME notability assuming there is any community in that nation at all. I'm voting Keep largely on the theory that (in general) topics under science fiction by country are encyclopedic as subjects of genre literature research. Although let's be honest: there are no other articles about South African Science Fiction anywhere on Wikipedia currently. If and when there is an article on Science Fiction in South Africa I would say merge this article there, but until then, no strong reason to delete it. -Markeer 16:44, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As I understand it, SFSA pretty much is the SF scene in South Africa; the publishing industry there is pretty colonial, and the local publishers aren't into SF as a genre.--Orange Mike 16:58, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Keep per Markeer. -Toptomcat 18:09, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - per markeer, and the fact that it seems to be the only SF related org in SA.Baka man 19:31, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per above. Grutness...wha? 06:07, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. There does not seems to be any notable coverage of this organisation at all in third-party reliable sources. Fails WP:CORP/WP:ORG by a megaparsec. That it may be the only organisation of its kind in the country is notable IF AND ONLY IF this fact is true, which in Wikipedia requires that it be reported in a verifiable source somewhere, which it isn't. Zun aid ©^{Please rate me at Editor Review!} 12:23, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Markeer. Ford MF 17:01, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.