Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Savannah Records

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The result was redirect to Brian Ferriman. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:46, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Savannah Records

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Yet another defunct Canadian record label. Deprodded with suggested merge to Warner Music Canada, but I could not find anything suggesting that this was ever actually a division of theirs. Searching "Savannah Records" + "Warner Canada" or "Savannah Records" + the names of the listed artists only turned up Wikipedia mirrors and Discogs. The closest I found to coverage was a 1985 ad for the Canadian Country Music Awards in Billboard which merely listed Anita Perras as a nominee. While most of the artists signed were notable, they all seem to be notable for releases on other labels and not so much for their Savannah Records work. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 16:50, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 16:50, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Companies and Ontario. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:59, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment would probably need a deep dive in off-line sources, I can't find much online. A few mentions in GBooks, mostly a mention in passing. Oaktree b (talk) 19:48, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Oaktree b: I searched worldradiohistory.org, which archives music magazines such as Billboard, Radio & Records, and even the Canadian RPM magazine. None of them gave the label anything more than the most passing of mentions. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 20:27, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Warner Music Canada, former subsidiary, possible link/search term, not enough for a stand-alone article, but bears mentioning. --Jayron32 12:48, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- I can't find any references to support it should be merged to Warner Music Canada - Jayron32 did you find something?
- In the context of record labels, "in association with" doesn't imply that Savannah was a subsidiary of WEA; it implies that Savannah was an independent label that had a distribution agreement with WEA, which isn't the same thing at all. So we can't just treat it as if it was actually a WEA subsidiary in the absence of proper verification to that effect; Ferriman is the better merge target, since his role with the record label is both (a) more straightforwardly sourceable, and (b) the most important thing about this record label anyway. Bearcat (talk) 13:50, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Brian Ferriman as ATD and below. Delete Unless Jayron32 has found something to suggest a merge is justifiable and since I am unable to locate any deep or significant coverage with in-depth information on the company and containing independent content, references to date fail the criteria for establishing notability, topic therefore fails WP:NCORP. HighKing⁺⁺ 14:46, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The text of the article states "Savannah Records, in association with WEA Canada..." Mentioning the existence of a subsidiary within the Warner Canada article does not require independent notability. GNG, NCORP, etc. are only criteria for stand-alone articles, not for text in Wikipedia articles. The advantage of merging/redirecting is that it leaves a proper blue link, as Savannah Records is a likely search term/link target given that there were notable artists on the label. --Jayron 32 14:53, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
True but that doesn't mean that it makes sense to merge with WMC. From this page (translated) it says that a subsidiary of WMC, Chappell Publishing, acted as a distributor. HighKing⁺⁺ 13:23, 26 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

As an alternate idea, perhaps a merge to Brian Ferriman, the label's founder, is in order. While his label may not be notable, he might be, and therefore that would also be a good target. --Jayron 32 14:55, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'd go along with a redirect - I've changed my !vote. HighKing⁺⁺ 13:23, 26 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz ^talk 01:08, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Brian Ferriman. I ran a ProQuest search for older coverage that may not have Googled — but while I got a lot of glancing namechecks of this label's existence, I found absolutely nothing about this label for the purposes of getting it over WP:GNG. Ferriman's article also needs improvement, but he does have a strong notability claim in his own right and his role with the label is what's most important about the label. Bearcat (talk) 13:55, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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