Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Saudi Arabia women's national football team

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The result was keep (non-admin close). Sir Sputnik (talk) 22:18, 18 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Saudi Arabia women's national football team

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The article has no meaning. The team has not yet played a match. That is to say that the team does not exist.--Uishaki (talk) 11:22, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep seems to meet WP:GNG. The topic is meaningful one even if the team has yet to play a match. Hawkeye7 (talk) 12:00, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Could rename to "Women's football in Saudi Arabia" if the title offends or confuses. The general topic appears notable, though. --Colapeninsula (talk) 12:40, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, and what a worthwhile article this is. I first thought to justify my opinion I might have to point out that WP:GNG is only a guideline and that "normally" does not mean the same as "always". However I see the article already has sufficient suitable references to confirm notability in the usual way (for example [1][2][3]). I agree a change of name might be helpful as well as better describing the present material but that is no reason at all for deletion. This article should definitely be kept. Thincat (talk) 15:47, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Saudi Arabia-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:05, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:06, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. ★☆ DUCKISJAMMMY☆★ 16:40, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I see where you're coming from, Uishaki. But this isn't just a group of mates who talk about forming a club someday; it's certainly more substantial than WP:CRYSTAL lays out. The topic sits at an interesting intersection of women's rights in Saudi Arabia and football in Saudi Arabia, and the amount of coverage already demonstrated on the article shows that we have WP:N even though there isn't an active team. --BDD (talk) 17:19, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - national team, has received plenty of coverage. Giant Snowman 18:17, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Although Montenegro's team was deleted on a similar pretext, wrongly in my view. I wouldn't object to a rename as suggested by Colapeninsula, at least until they get round to playing a match. Clavdia chauchat (talk) 19:04, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Extensive sources exist on team's non-existence and the need for a team to actually exist. This topic is also getting a lot of coverage connected to Saudi Arabia's refusal to send women to the Olympics, the last country in the world to do so. There are also issues with the federation working to actively oppose measures that would allow for the creation of a team. --LauraHale (talk) 22:00, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
delete Wikipedia is not a place for speculation, the country of saudi arabia doesn't even allow women to practise sport yet, how long before a notable match is played? Seasider91 (talk) 23:54, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What speculation is found in the article? --LauraHale (talk) 00:30, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and WP:SNOW close. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 07:01, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Clearly demonstrates enough coverage to warrant an article, though I'd agree that renaming to Women's football in Saudi Arabia might perhaps be more appropriate to the current situation. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 08:43, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Notability is clearly demonstrated through WP:GNG. The team having yet to play a competitive match is irrelevant to WP guidelines. Mattythewhite (talk) 13:59, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Snow Keep and rename to Women's football in Saudi Arabia. This topic passes WP:GNG; examples include [4], [5], [6].

—Northamerica1000^(talk) 10:03, 14 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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