Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Saturday Disney

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Lankiveil ^{(speak to me)} 09:45, 12 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Saturday Disney[edit]

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Aticle has not show notability. I attempt to find enough to make it notable to no avail, such that I place what I could find at List of Disney TV programming blocks#Saturday Disney and change the article to a redirect. Another editor reversed the redirect, so I allow them time to find sources that perhaps I could not find with a notability and primary sourcing hat note. Since then only additional primary source (Yahoo 7 is owned by Seven Network producers of the show, co-hosts' blog (again a blog & primary), Throng which is a social media for media, thus a primary sources & social media and a fan site, "Cartoon Central Australia"/Members.optusnet.com.au are main sources for the article. Taking them out left the previous TV Tonight blog while run by a media professional has no editorial oversite to qualify as a reliable source and a single minor article from Sunshine Coast Daily about a then new host coming from the area. This article does not give in depth coverage of Saturday Disney to make it notable.

There is a sexist host section based on it listing the hair color of the hostess as a "position". Spshu (talk) 20:26, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. Spshu (talk) 20:52, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 22:54, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - The show passes WP:TVSHOW, since it's a long-running network show with national broadcast scope, a small amount of cultural importance (a number of Australian TV hosts got their start on the show), and a cursory search reveals plenty of RS. The problem is that you'd never know any of this from the article itself! And the nominator is 100% right about the hair colour thing... ugh. Lots of work needed. De Guerre (talk) 23:57, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Couldnt put it any better than De Guerre It's a long running show and the sources aren't that bad, GNews brings up a few sourceshttps://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Saturday+Disney&oq=Saturday+Disney+&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60l2&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8#safe=off&tbm=nws&q=%22Saturday+Disney%22 so notability's certainly there . –Davey2010^Talk 00:36, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: That search turns up events at Disney World or Disneyland that occurred on a Saturday, other events occurring on Saturday that have to do with the Disney Company or passing mention of the actual Saturday Disney block (host attends an event or the about Carmen Ejogo being a host of the UK Saturday Disney). I found one about a visit to COFFS Coast not enough to write an article about. WP:TVSHOW still requires the show to meet the notability requirements, no article cover Saturday Disney significantly enough. Spshu (talk) 15:48, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 01:10, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - I have removed the sexist listing of host positions by just listing "Host", still allowing readers to see the clear succession. As for the references, the show does not receive regular publicity through internet articles. This is pretty much everything and I've done an extensive internet search. However the show is long running and therefore notable. If you compare the page to Toasted TV, another Australian block, I think Saturday Disney is considerably better written. SatDis (talk) 03:16, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Long running does not make the show notable, although surprisingly that it does some how meet notability. The continued removal of the redirect to List of Disney TV programming blocks and the notability tag is what got the page here at AfD. I don't understand the need to not work with others to create an incorrectly sourced article fork over working to get it notable at a list article. What is or is not going on at another article, in this case, Toasted TV, is not relevant to this discussion. Better written does not make it notable either. Spshu (talk) 14:28, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep 25 years on the air? Well passes WP:TVSHOW. Nothing more to add than we have to work with whatever the very insular Australian media community has to give us and what's been done here is the best effort. Nate • (chatter) 20:21, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I agree. I've done everything I can for this article over many years. So if anyone thinks they can make it better then please do what you can! SatDis (talk) 00:22, 11 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.