Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Samuel Silvera

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The result was Draftify. Fenix down (talk) 10:14, 16 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Samuel Silvera[edit]

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Article fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Subject has not played in competitive match between two fully pro teams nor has he represented his nation as senior or Olympic level. Simione001 (talk) 10:07, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Simione001 (talk) 10:09, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Draftify ~~Subject does meet WP:NFOOTBALL.~~ His current team Central Coast Mariners FC plays in A-League listed as the criteria to be considered as a professional team for Australia. Source shows that the subject did play a competitive match with that team. --Crystallizedcarbon (talk) 10:34, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Changed from keep to draftify following comments by GiantSnowman. Even though there is coverage, I can't defend that GNG is met at this point NFOOTY is technically not met since his first match with the professional team was against a semi-pro, all indicates that both will be met shortly. --Crystallizedcarbon (talk) 08:13, 10 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Draftify. He played in an FFA Cup match but, as Giant Snowman rightly points out, it was not against another fully-pro team so I agree that disqualifies him for the present as regards NFOOTY. Possible confusion here because the infobox records no appearances for the Mariners but the infobox counts league matches only. There is nearly enough coverage for the GNG with the potential for much more, so I think a deletion at present would be hasty. Unless we can put this on hold for now, in case he appears in the next match, can we draftify it instead, as we did with Jordan Archer of Bury several weeks ago? No Great Shaker (talk) 11:14, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - has not played in a competitive match between two teams both from fully-professional leagues (his FFA game was against semi-pro Maitland), meaning he fails WP:NFOOTBALL. Also no indication he meets WP:GNG. @Crystallizedcarbon and No Great Shaker: to reconsider. Giant Snowman 11:59, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I did miss the fact that the first match with his new team was against a semi-professional team, so I do agree that WP:NFOOTBALL is not met at the time. Still, I think that being honored as youth player of the year does provide some level of notability, I also found a few other sources that provide additional coverage. I think that keeping it until the match mentioned by Pharaoh of the Wizards probably makes sense. In the worst case it should be draftified or moved to the user space of the author. --Crystallizedcarbon (talk) 16:28, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Giantsnowman is right as of now he fails WP:NFOOTY and the next match is only on 28th Aug only if he plays against Brisbane Roar FC he passes WP:NFOOTY. Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 12:28, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify – meets my draftify criteria: there is one WP:GNG source [1], but I don't see a second to make this a "keep", but the player is active and still playing in a top league (A-League), so a second GNG source may be written in the next six months, and then it can be moved from draftspace to mainspace. – Levivich 21:41, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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