Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Salamat Sadikova

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy keep per WP:SK#1. Nominator not advocating deletion and the only delete !vote has been struck (non-admin closure) Ron Ritzman (talk) 17:51, 28 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Salamat Sadykova[edit]

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I do not believe this article should be deleted, there is abundant notability claimed so satisfies WP:N, it just needs a lot of work. This article keeps being retaliatorily PRODded by 69.181.249.92, this is to force it through the proper channels. Further, the author is not a native English speaker and may not be aware of copyright laws which are much different in Kyrgyzstan, and to avoid WP:systemic bias, this needs more help than a fly-by-night PROD tag. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 10:00, 27 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: The article under discussion here has been flagged (by the nominator) for {{rescue}} by the Article Rescue Squadron, with no explanation as to why this article should be rescued and how that could happen (per ARS instructions). SnottyWong ^confess 16:37, 27 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think the improvement of this article by ARS members is self-evident, so no explanation is really necessary at this point. Silver seren^C 16:40, 27 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy close - This is nonsense. The nominator keeps removing a BLPPROD tag even though the article has no references, in clear defiance of Wikipedia:Proposed deletion of biographies of living people. A WP:POINT nomination, done in retaliation for my edits at Belinda (Rice novel) (another unreferenced article). The PROD tag needs to be restored and allowed to run it's course. 69.181.249.92 (talk) 10:07, 27 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Misrepresentation of the facts, because of a difference we had at Belinda (Rice novel), 69.181.249.92 PRODded Salamat Sadykova, an article he had never edited before, the very next edit after mine, isn't that a coincidence! I am within policy to see that this article gets a fair shake, bringing it in front of the whole community. This AfD is what needs to be allowed to run its course.--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 13:59, 27 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

~~Delete~~ No evidacne of notability. Perhaps you could provide some cvoerage to disprove this?Slatersteven (talk) 15:25, 27 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

References added, please take another look at the article. Silver seren^C 16:29, 27 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Close - Clearly a WP:POINTy nomination. I don't believe the nominator understands the difference between PROD and BLPPROD. I have tried to explain this on their user talk page, but my warning was quickly reverted. The first sentence of this nomination is more than enough evidence that this AfD was created in bad faith and should be speedily closed. Even if this AfD goes on and gets 400 keep votes, it's not going to prevent anyone from BLPPRODing it right after the AfD is over. As long as there are no references in a biographical article, it can be BLPPRODed. I'm going to ask someone on WP:ANI to take a look at this AfD and consider whether speedy closing and reinstating the BLPPROD tag is appropriate. SnottyWong ^babble 15:43, 27 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment ineligible for speedy keep per Slatersteven's delete vote.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 16:09, 27 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep References have now been added to the article and it is quite clear that the subject is quite notable, as she appears to be one of the top singers to come out of Kyrgyzstan. I'm not sure how many major singers come out of said country, but I wouldn't think it to be an expansive amount. Silver seren^C 16:29, 27 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Sufficient references have been added to show passing WP:GNG. Moreover, the article says that she has the title of People's Artist of Kyrgyzstan, and this fact does check out according to this Russian newsref[1]. The People's Artist title, instituted back in the Soviet times, signifies a very high degree of artistic recognition, for any of the former Soviet republics. Nsk92 (talk) 19:13, 27 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that ref, I went ahead and added it in. Silver seren^C 19:18, 27 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy keep. Even nominator recognizes notability of subject. There is a Kyrgyz language version of this article at ky:Садыкова, Саламат.. noting that there are only 1,282 article for the language wiki, that this guy is mentioned there perhaps says something to his importance to their culture. —CodeHydro 20:18, 27 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

...*coughs* "Girl". It's a she. Silver seren^C 20:19, 27 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - now that reliable secondary sources have been added, there's no reason to delete. 69.181.249.92 (talk) 20:18, 27 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Good sources added. scope_creep (talk) 21:34, 27 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. As with many foreign language topics, there are many ways to spell this person's name. The current article title, "Salamat Sadykova," has 4,100 google results. I suggest it be moved after the AfD to "Salamat Sadikova," which has 11,700 result. I have also found some sources with "Salamat Sadicova" which I found by plugging in "سلامات صاديقوفا" into google translator... not that I can read arabic, but google translator does wonders. —CodeHydro 20:52, 27 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Kyrgyzstan-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 01:06, 28 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 01:07, 28 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The version I looked at is well referenced. rʨanaɢ (talk) 03:01, 28 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Going to move the article and this AfD page to Salamat Sadikova. I think the original author's google translator name is used a lot less often. —CodeHydro 16:46, 28 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I can't confirm that all these different names apply to the saem person. But neither can I say they don't. There does seem to be some sourcing now that could be notable.Slatersteven (talk) 17:45, 28 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.