Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Saint Evilasius (Executioner)
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Please take the redirect discussion to the talk page. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 20:55, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Saint Evilasius (Executioner)[edit]
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There's exactly one Google hit on this saint. I would think there would be more than one for anyone canonized by the Catholic Church. - Dank (push to talk) 20:10, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. -- - Dank (push to talk) 20:11, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep or redirect to Fausta of Sirmium
Comment--Searching "Evilasius" without the "St." yielded more than 600 Google hits. The reason seems to be that he is paired up with Fausta of Sirmium, the girl he is said to have tortured, rather than discussed separately. Here is a particularly graphic telling of the tale. He does seem to be a legitimate Catholic Saint and thus (I assume) prima facie notable.I haven't had a chance to read through if there isThere is perhaps enough to justify a separate article for Evilasius, but if not, I'd prefer redirecting it to the existing stub Fausta of Sirmium, which already mentions him, and which could be expanded as well.--Arxiloxos (talk) 20:30, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply] - Keep or redirect to Fausta of Sirmium. There are actually about 678 google hits for the name as per here. However, he does seem to be tied to Saint Fausta, so for the purposes of having articles of reasonable length, it probably makes sense to have them both covered in the same article. John Carter (talk) 20:48, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete both subjects are notable, but not independently of each other. i don't see how the two articles could ever differ in actual content. Thus I would say merge, except this is a very implausible search term. I have created Saint Evilasius and Evilasius as redirects to Fausta of Sirmium. If this closes as keep those will need to be re-pointed--ThaddeusB (talk) 21:26, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: upon further examination there are actually TWO Saint Faustas. The one who was tortured isn't Fausta of Sirmium so I have moved the article to Saint Fausta and corrected the info. Compare [1] and [2] --ThaddeusB (talk) 21:49, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I have redirected Fausta of Sirmium to Anastasia of Sirmium, as her only claim to notability is that she is the traditional mother of Anastasia. --ThaddeusB (talk) 23:47, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect To Saint Fausta, as his notability is tied solely to hers. More detail on Evalasius can be found here: [3]. For the record, he is an Orthodox saint, not a Roman Catholic saint. Pastor Theo (talk) 02:29, 30 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: I would be interested in knowing where the details of the story originate from - obviously it makes a big difference if the details weren't added to centuries later. Either way, they can be included in the Saint Fausta article, but I need know where they come from to properly write the article. If anyone finds anything let me know. --ThaddeusB (talk) 02:48, 30 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect To Saint Fausta, drop a note on the talk page in case someone can pick it up from reliable sources in the future Chzz ► 03:30, 30 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect per Chzz. This article is unacceptable, but useful as redirect. American Eagle (talk) 04:07, 31 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: Saint Evilasius already exists as a redirect and no content was merged from Saint Evilasius (Executioner) so there really is no reason to keep the second page as a redirect --ThaddeusB (talk) 04:22, 31 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. At the very least seems to be a Saint in the Orthodox Church, probably Catholic as well.Tyrenon (talk) 09:49, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep as Saint Evilasius Every recognized saint found in classic sources is notable. We do not have to decide between the degree to which this is legend or fact-- Bede is reliable for what was believed in the early middle ages. That the deaths are linked is irrelevant. DGG (talk) 22:07, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.