Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Safia Farkash

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The result was delete. -- Cirt (talk) 00:52, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Safia Farkash[edit]

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Effectively First Lady of Libya, but has only a very few passing mentions in the media. This is probably a test of WP:NOTINHERITED, which appears to imply that a First Lady is notable in her own right. The only real information I've been able to find is this, an witness statement by Saif al-Islam Muammar Al-Gaddafi (her son), which if it is accurate would somewhat disagree with a description of her as a first lady ("She is not a public figure in her own right, and she is nothing like a First Lady", para 4). ninety:one 16:39, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete The logic of saying that notability is not inherited is that notability is not conferred merely by being a relative of somebody who is. At least in modern times the wife of a US President does take on a public role in their own right, and gains notabilty from that, but other countries, and wives, have different approaches and the role of First Lady is not to be assumed. It needs to be taken case by case, and her son's comment is probably a good guide. AJHingston (talk) 17:10, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Very tricky to be sure one has found all the possible sources here due to language and transliteration stuff. [1] is a Google translate of a Google cache entry that seems to say she was vice-president of the organization for African First Ladies in 2006, but I was unable to find any other confirmation of that or its notability. There's a couple sentences on her in German at [2]. The Internet Archive managed to snag an article on her meeting with the First Lady of Malta here. A few more small things show up if you include Khadafi in your spellings, e.g, [3]. This is a comment on the challenges of this research, not a !vote. --j⚛e decker ^{talk to me} 17:24, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. In some countries the First Lady is the subject of significant media coverage, in other countries not at all. (I seem to recall that there was some Soviet leader -- maybe Konstantin Chernenko? -- for whom the American government wasn't even sure whether or not he was married until his funeral.) Libya seems to be in the latter category. This article is only four sentences long, and even those sentences are pretty weak. "She married Colonel Muammar Gaddafi, the second." (Fortunately, there has been only one Muammar Gaddafi.) "She worked as a nurse in Al Bayda hospital and fell ill in 1971." (Hopefully she recovered sometime in the last 40 years.) --Metropolitan90 (talk) 19:23, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- It was Yuri Andropov who was not known to be married until his funeral. [4] --Metropolitan90 (talk) 19:24, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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