Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rowley Jefferson

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to List of Diary of a Wimpy Kid characters#Rowley Jefferson. JohnCD (talk) 17:33, 23 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rowley Jefferson

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This is an article consisting purely of WP:FANCRUFT; this character shows no real-world impact, nor does he have reception in multiple, reliable sources. Cheers! Scapler (talk) 00:33, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Diary of a Wimpy Kid (series). Article fails WP:N. Good faith searches return plenty of forum/fan discussion of this character but no significant coverage in independent reliable sources. - DustFormsWords (talk) 01:12, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

merge or redirect, but not delete. DGG ( talk ) 02:58, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - I don't think that there is any verifiable, sourced information to merge. As it stands now, the bulk of it is original research. However, multiple people insist on keeping it instead of redirecting it. I would be fine with a redirect, but apparently some are not. Cheers! Scapler (talk) 03:18, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - "Multiple people" are free to provide their arguments for maintaining it as a standalone article, and/or some reliable sources establishing notability at this AfD, as is everyone else. Or for that matter, on the article's talk page, which as of this writing is completely blank. That would have been the appropriate place to discuss a merge prior to AfD but I guess we can deal with it here now. Actually, I've just noticed some interested parties haven't been notified of this AfD - I'll go fix that now. - DustFormsWords (talk) 03:26, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - It appears none of the contributors to this article other than the creator were notified of this AfD. I have hopefully now rectified that by notifying all substantial contributing accounts. I will also place a notice on the talk main page for Diary of a Wimpy Kid (series). - DustFormsWords (talk) 03:33, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not an interested party; I made it into a redirect when I first saw it. Please be more careful next time you template people. DS (talk) 03:31, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - As someone who had previously argued the article should be a redirect, you may potentially have been someone interested in that same debate happening here. I would assume people would want to be over-warned of debates potentially of interest to them, rather than underwarned. - DustFormsWords (talk) 03:33, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

merge and redirect to ~~Diary of a Wimpy Kid (series)~~ List of Diary of a Wimpy Kid characters ~~as a last resort,~~ do not delete. It is interesting to note there have been multiple attempts to redirect this that have been reversed by those who have been trying to build it. Dloh cierekim 03:44, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

However, none of the "building" has brought it any closer to meeting Wikipedia guidelines for a standalone article. See WP:WAF and WP:NOTE. An article on a fictional character must discuss it from a real-world context, and have multiple references demonstrating notability. Every character article that survives long-term has a good reception section that discusses the cultural impact of the character. The article as it is now is not encyclopedic, and it does not appear that there are enough reliable sources discussing the character in-depth to make it acceptable by notability standards. Cheers! Scapler (talk) 03:59, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I have attributed two sentences that have real world significance. It's hard going. ~~I have also removed what looks like a copy vio. See hidden text for now to see source inf~~ It is regrettable, that with all the reverting and adding of unsourced material that no one took the time to source this. Dloh cierekim 04:20, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I added what I could source to ~~Diary of a Wimpy Kid (series)~~ List of Diary of a Wimpy Kid characters. So I suppose the "merge" is done. I could say he serves as a foil for the main character, but that would require OR and Synthesis. The rest is OR and synthesis. I haven't looked for any copyvio's but I removed the one I stumbled into. Redirect seems the way to go. Dloh cierekim 04:38, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to section on List of Diary of a Wimpy Kid characters. The character is not independently notable; the redirect should be protected in the event that someone turns it back into a separate article. Neelix (talk) 19:00, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

CommentThere's a problem with the "list of" article.It too is unreferenced and full of OR and Synthesis. Dloh cierekim 19:14, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, although I don't think that changes what needs to be done with this page. Neelix (talk) 00:59, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tru, but we're redirecting to apge that's as big a mess as this is. <sigh /> Dloh cierekim 01:01, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect and merge to List of Diary of a Wimpy Kid characters. NERDYSCIENCEDUDE (✉ msg • changes) 02:04, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Rowley's section in List of Diary of a Wimpy Kid characters. This article tries to make too much out of too little (meaning that there isn't enough in the Wimpy Kid series to write a proper article on Rowley. Letsy2 (talk) 05:59, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect: I agree with much of you. Greg Heffley was redirected, so this should be, too. 209.175.117.2 (talk) 18:40, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

...and BTW, the ref's aren't reliable. 209.175.117.2 (talk) 18:43, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to List of Diary of a Wimpy Kid characters#Rowley Jefferson. Can someone redirect, delete, or do anything else already? Somebody500 (talk) 00:10, 23 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 20:24, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.