Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ronny Santana

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The result was delete. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 14:04, 28 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ronny Santana[edit]

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Advertorially tinted WP:BLP of an actor, politician and businessman, with no strong claim to passing our inclusion standards for any of those endeavours and no evidence of enough reliable source coverage about him to clear WP:GNG. His notability as an actor boils down to "has had roles", and his notability as a politician amounts to "smalltown public safety commissioner" and "non-winning candidate for Congress" -- but none of those three confer an automatic inclusion freebie on a person just because he exists, and the sourcing here is complete garbage right across the board: the acting is sourced entirely to IMDb, another IMDb-like directory, a non-notable blog and a YouTube video, while the politics stuff is heavily reference-overkilled (five to seven separate cites on a single sentence, three times over) to glancing namechecks of his existence in sources that are not about him -- such as a brief namecheck of his existence as Anna Eshoo's challenger in a media endorsement of Eshoo, routine FEC reports of the type that every candidate for Congress has to file, and raw tables of election results. And then for his business career, we bounce right back to his own self-published web presence.
Nothing stated in the article is an "automatic" notability freebie that entitles him to have a Wikipedia article just because he exists: actors do not get an automatic WP:NACTOR pass just because they've had roles, political candidates do not get an WP:NPOL pass just for being candidates, and businesspeople do not get an automatic pass over our notability standards for businesspeople just because their business has a website. He has to be the subject of enough coverage in reliable sources to pass WP:GNG for those things, but none of the sourcing here, not even one footnote out of the 33 listed here, counts for anything whatsoever toward getting him over GNG. Bearcat (talk) 00:21, 20 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep- Ronny Santana is already mentioned on these Wikipedia Pages;
United States House of Representatives elections in California, 2008
California's 14th congressional district
United States House of Representatives elections, 2008
Anna_Eshoo

Also, these sites of USA government and New York Times have listed his political career.

http://clerk.house.gov/member_info/electionInfo/2008/2008Stat.htm
http://elections.cdn.sos.ca.gov/statewide-elections/2008-general/shortlist_gen2008.pdf
https://www.fec.gov/data/candidate/H8CA14169/
https://www.sccgov.org/elections/results/jun082010/
https://www.nytimes.com/elections/2010/results/primaries/california.html

Alic.Mat23 (talk) 16:59, 20 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Firstly, a person does not get to have a Wikipedia article just because his name happens to be mentioned in other Wikipedia articles — to qualify for a standalone article he has to pass Wikipedia's inclusion standards, which nothing in this article or its sourcing does. And secondly, a person does not get to have a Wikipedia article just because his name gets mentioned in the exact same routine government and election-results sources that mention every candidate in every electoral district across the entire state or country. He has to be the subject of media coverage, not just have his name present in tables of the vote count or lists of all the candidates in his district or the financial statements that every candidate has to provide to the FEC. Bearcat (talk) 21:55, 20 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 00:32, 20 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 00:32, 20 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete This person is not a notable politician, actor or businessperson. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 00:41, 21 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete a twice defeated candidate for congress (once apparently, but not clearly, in the primary) is just not notable. His role as an actor is even further from notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 05:53, 21 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.