Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ron Yitzchok Eisenman

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The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. Thanks to StonyBrook for finding the additional sources. (non-admin closure) Singularity42 (talk) 17:33, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ron Yitzchok Eisenman

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After sorting out the WP:PEACOCK language in this article, at the end of the day I don't believe the sources cited are reliable sources that support notability. Majority of references are written by the subject himself. Others are blogs are other non-reliable sources. Singularity42 (talk) 17:08, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. Oaktree b (talk) 00:01, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. After spending time cleaning up this article, I believe a case can be made for not deleting it. While it is true that the sourcing can hardly be called 'significant', I would argue that it could at least be called reliable, and independent of the subject. I am referring to the the New York Jewish Week/The Times of Israel and the Intermountain Jewish News (Denver/paywalled). Besides for being a long time influential synagogue rabbi, author and journalist, the sources point to the subject being an unusually outspoken advocate for sexual abuse victims going back almost 20 years. That indicates that the subject is not just another run-of-the mill pulpit leader, since historically this has been a controversial position for an Orthodox rabbi to take (until very recently). The Chaim Walder affair in December of last year has garnered the subject additional coverage in this regard. This source, while containing primary material, I did find it to be at least non self-serving, providing some insight into the character. I would also point the reader to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marvin Goldstein for some guidance. A badly sourced article about a musician was apparently brought up to WP:NBASIC standards using similar minor independent publications from around the US. Particularly relevant to our case is the statement made there by a Delete !voter (emphasis mine): If this was a biography of a religious figure than it would be a different story, but for a minor musician much stronger coverage is need to ensure encyclopedic quality. Between the pulpit, books/articles written, and the abuse advocacy, I think there is enough to get this subject over the top. StonyBrook (talk) 00:55, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That was great work rescuing the article, StonyBrook! I'm probably prepared to withdraw my nomination. Before I do so, I just wanted to see if Oaktree b had any objections before I withdraw it. Singularity42 (talk) 14:40, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep :Intermountain Jewish News, Baltimore Jewish Life, The Jewish News coverage satisfies GNG. Djflem (talk) 17:27, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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