Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ron Rafael Shimshilahvili

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The result was delete. Sam Walton (talk) 23:18, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

Ron Rafael Shimshilahvili

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Very poor article that looks like a recreation of Ron Shimshilashvili. But it is possible that by now he is notable. Under this name just a few Google hits and a promo IMDb-page. Under the correct name about 80k Google hits and a serious IMDb page. Page move not possible as the Ron Shimshilashvili-page is salted. Re-evaluation necessary. The Banner talk 21:06, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

• Speedy delete - I would think this is a speedy delete as previous version was salted. No evidence of notability; lots of evidence of self-promotion. —Мандичка^YO 😜 21:15, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

• keep He has over 1.8 Million followers and he's verified with the blue check mark... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.29.171.203 (talk) 22:32, 2 August 2015 (UTC) — 5.29.171.203 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
  • Where are you talking about? The Banner talk 22:45, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

I have 1.9 million followers and I'm verified with blue check marks, pink hearts, yellow moons, orange stars, and green clovers. —Мандичка^YO 😜 22:48, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

• • On his Facebook and Twitter. Just need little fixing.

• A quick note, check out all those reliable sources. (has more but i am not going to put all of them).

• Strongly Keep i agree, Just needs little editing. Look on google how many hits and how notable he's now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.29.171.203 (talk) 22:59, 2 August 2015 (UTC) — 5.29.171.203 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

You already cast your !vote.... So you're agreeing with yourself? Duplicate vote struck. —Мандичка^YO 😜 23:13, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

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• speedy keep I see him all over the Red Carpet events and all over the channels. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.176.210.121 (talk) 23:46, 2 August 2015 (UTC) — 66.176.210.121 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

• speedy keep saw him on the Oscars, and hes all over, who ever created this needs to fix it. But, his getting notable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.179.163.225 (talk) 23:48, 2 August 2015 (UTC) — 73.179.163.225 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

• Speedy delete and Salt - SPA re-creation of a deleted article with no new evidence for notability. No significant coverage in reliable sources. Fails WP:NACTOR. GermanJoe (talk) 00:38, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

• A quick note to the IMDB-credentials: spotchecking a few of the 50 entries (I am not checking all of them), those are minor roles in mostly less-known productions (a lot of them have him as producer, editor, director etc. as well). None of the checked roles have been in the primary cast of a notable movie. GermanJoe (talk) 00:54, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

I think he's an extra in almost all of them, most uncredited. The comment on his IMDB forum was complaining he was rude to the "other extras" on the Rock of Ages set. You can see from the aggressive sockpuppetry on this page that he has a high opinion of himself. —Мандичка^YO 😜 16:29, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

that person who wrote the comment don't even exist his account last log in was 3 years and 7 months ago ... Can see it's a hater like you ;) don't worry time will come. Ron will shiny and all haters gone feel the pain. Printing copy of this page for further notice to send to Ron so he can keep a screen shot of this and in the future once he shiny it's gone be on tv. I'll make sure I found out his address to send him this screen shot. Go a head delete this page. Do it now!! Ron will get a copy of this "wanna be Russian" in the mail and we all will see it soon. Give it some time. Everything has time. Baby. Peace. I'm done with this case close. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.29.171.203 (talk) 17:09, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

• Speedy Keep really famous on a serious IMDb page. And all over the world! Who ever wrote the article needs to fix it. Next time I'll write better one about him. All you haters gone hate !! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:30B:8200:FFC9:DCF7:4D33:D20E:CB4B (talk) 16:08, 3 August 2015 (UTC) — 2602:30B:8200:FFC9:DCF7:4D33:D20E:CB4B (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

Please stop spamming this page. This is not a situation where votes are counted. —Мандичка^YO 😜 16:25, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

• Delete I cannot find a single reliable source. I removed some links from the page, after not being able to find any mention of him as being associated with these movies. I do not know what to make of having 97,000 Facebook "likes," and zero secondary sources, but it's not notability. Flag me if I'm wrong, and someone produces sources.E.M.Gregory (talk) 16:39, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
• Delete Does not appear to be a notable actor. Only one role in a film that currently has a Wikipedia page. ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs)} ~ 17:12, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
• Delete Even under the correct spelling of Shimshilashvili, I can find a mass of social media and such stuff but nothing that would seem to pass WP:RS. Facebook likes are not accepted here as a reliable value indicator as they can be purchased at quite reasonable prices. IMDb is in many cases user supplied info (Adolf Hitler's page being an exception...), and not regarded as reliable here. I'm not a 'hater' - I've never heard of him before this and haven't managed to find anything much reliable to base hate or like on. That's what we go on here - reliable independent sources WP:RS. If you can produce them, please do so. Otherwise, you're wasting your time by posting things that will be ignored because they don't give good reasons WITH PROOF that the article should be kept. Peridon (talk) 17:26, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

I've delinked some of the films or TV progs as the links don't go to relevant things. I've also looked in the cast lists for things that are accessible, but can find no mention of Shimshilashvili in them. Peridon (talk) 19:35, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Does anyone have reliable proof that he indeed won the award mentioned in the article and picture? I can not find one. The Banner talk 14:17, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

yes !! The video proof is on YouTube and on the newspaper !! Do you want me to send you the video link ?? Or just type on YouTube Ron won award movie premier ... At least you understand us!! May god bless you !! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.29.171.203 (talk) 14:54, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

• Comment @5.29.171.203: YouTube is not a reliable independent source. I'm afraid the sources you have in the article aren't reliable independent sources either. IMDb, profiles at places like MTV, and questions about Shimshilashvili's birthday at evi.com are no good for establishing notability. All they show is the subject exists. We need more - coverage in good quality press reports about him (not just naming him while talking about something else), but not the lyrics of a rap song. Peridon (talk) 15:22, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

how about an tmz interview ?? Is tmz good or "fake " Also. If you guys don't believe in tmz. Well then i don't know what to say. His not the son of Obama ... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.29.171.203 (talk) 16:55, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Obama does not have a son. He does, however, have two daughters, NEITHER of whom have their own Wikipedia article. —Мандичка^YO 😜 14:42, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

You didn't answer the question trying to back off lol ?? So answer the question about tmz. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.56.27.194 (talk) 18:32, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

What question? Is TMZ good or fake? TMZ can be used as a source, but it's not a very strong source. But as has been pointed out multiple times, he must meet WP:GNG ← read this please. —Мандичка^YO 😜 18:42, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

• Delete Anyone who wants to keep this article should share the 2-3 best sources of information covering this person which meet WP:RS and pass WP:GNG. This should not be a complicated assessment - Wikipedia's rules are kept simple. Blue Rasberry (talk) 14:58, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
• keep all you haters out there. His really notable !! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.56.27.194 (talk) 18:33, 5 August 2015 (UTC) — 172.56.27.194 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
  • Aha, you have no more arguments so you start shouting and roaring. You loose... The Banner talk 21:15, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
• Speedy delete per G4. "Best Actor at Boynton Cinema" my foot. Kraxler (talk) 15:42, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
• Delete and suggest Salting to prevent this debate from happening yet again. The others have pretty much summed this up: this guy exists, he appears to have a degree of popularity, but there is nothing to prove that he is notable in the least. - A Texas Historian (Impromptu collaboration?) 04:24, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
• Delete - This bloke is as about as notable as my left arse cheek!, No evidence of notability, FAILS NACTOR & GNG. –Davey2010^Talk 04:45, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

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