Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Roman Matys
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was no consensus. Sandstein 08:51, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
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Apparently promotional article and possible conflict of interest. Similar edit history in the Ukranian version of the article. Jamez42 (talk) 17:21, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Jamez42 (talk) 17:26, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ukraine-related deletion discussions. Jamez42 (talk) 17:26, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
- (For the sake of clarity, I discovered this discussion from ukwiki Embassy). Roman Matys is known for two things. Firstly, he is a prominent activist for use of Ukrainian language in business, has launched initiatives of nationwide prominence and received coverage in Newsweek, The Ukrainian Week or Foreign Policy, plus multiple Ukrainian-language media. This activity seems to be notable owing to the level of coverage. Secondly, he is a politician holding a regional office in Lviv Oblast which is very well covered in the article, but his letters to the National Bank of Ukraine are probably less notable and less impactful. The Ukrainian article does have some contributions from User:Roman Matys but they are not substantial, with most information on his activism written by neutral users, and most information about his political career is written by Absolutus ca who also wrote the article here and looks somewhat biased on it — NickK (talk) 20:17, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
- Weak delete There are some sources on the topic but they are few and far between (and mostly in Ukrainian). If the outcome is to keep the article, the majority of the content within the article needs to be sourced to meet BLP policy, or removed entirely. ToastButterToast (talk) 17:08, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
- Delete. This is written more like a résumé than an encyclopedia article, serving on the L'viv Oblast council is not an automatic notability freebie under WP:NPOL because the oblasts are not equivalent to states or provinces in countries where that level of legislature gets a person over NPOL #1, and nothing else here is a strong enough claim of notability for any other reason to exempt him from having to be referenced much better than this. I'm not familiar enough with Ukrainian politics or culture to be a reliable judge of his prominence as an activist, so no prejudice against recreation if somebody can write it much more encyclopedically and source it much better than this, but this as written isn't cutting it. Bearcat (talk) 19:09, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
- Weak keep The promotional and self puffery is horrible and it was created by a single purpose account. Nonetheless, he seems to have founded an influential (or at least Newsweek-mentionable) NGO which satisfies WP:GNG. Bangabandhu (talk) 05:57, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
- Weak delete - poorly sourced, although he might be notable. Bearian (talk) 14:56, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, TonyBallioni (talk) 15:52, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, TonyBallioni (talk) 15:52, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
Keep mainstream publications here [1], [2], [3] added as citations. Over and above GNG. Otrantos (talk) 14:08, 1 July 2018 (UTC)— Otrantos (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.- User has been blocked. Newslinger (talk) 03:24, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
- Keep Meets GNG per the above sources. ~EDDY (talk/contribs)~ 23:17, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 20:43, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 20:43, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. The coverage from Newsweek and Kyiv Post is sufficiently significant. However, this article is not written in a neutral tone and needs some serious work to be encyclopedic. Newslinger (talk) 03:30, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
- I've removed his gallery of awards from the article. I've also tagged the {{COI}} tag since the uploader of the award images, Absolutus ca (talk · contribs), self-identified as Roman Matys when uploading the images. The uploader is also the article creator, which means that Roman Matys wrote the article on himself. Newslinger (talk) 03:37, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
- I've warned Absolutus ca (talk · contribs) with {{uw-coi}}, and placed {{COI editnotice}} on the article's talk page. I've also removed the Awards section from the article. Newslinger (talk) 03:50, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
- I'm in the process of cleaning up the article, correcting the grammar, and removing self-promotion. Newslinger (talk) 04:13, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
- I've removed the Career section, because it consisted solely of actions attributed to Matys without supporting evidence. Newslinger (talk) 05:31, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
- I've replaced the Social activities section with an Advocacy section that summarizes the Newsweek article. At this time, I've finished making major edits to the article. Newslinger (talk) 05:45, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
- Delete : The Foreign Policy article is about the gradual re-introduction of the Ukrainian language in the Ukraine and Matys is name dropped once, as one person among those who support that. The only reliable source with something of substance is the Newsweek article. Creating an article in the basis of one or two sources, which, moreover, contains blatantly promotional verbiage, violates WP:BASIC:
People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources
. -The Gnome (talk) 11:00, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
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