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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. (non-admin closure) ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 14:45, 25 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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The news coverage of Ms Lawley is focused almost entirely on her being the first plus size model to appear on the cover of a small number of magazines (examples: [1], [2], [3] and thinly disguised press releases from her management on this topic (eg [4]). As such, I don't think that she meets WP:BLP1E. The article appears to have been created by an editor who appears to have some relationship with her management judging from their editing. Please note that I nominated this for prod deletion, but it was disputed by an editor who's only activity has been to edit this article. Nick-D (talk) 06:59, 16 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. Nick-D (talk) 06:59, 16 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Nick-D (talk) 06:59, 16 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Lean keep: The following source is almost exclusively about the model: T HERE is nothing wrong with being a ``plus size in fashion according to top model Robyn Lawley , who will be appearing in the Mercedes-Benz Fashion Festival beginning in Sydney today. Centralian Advocate (Darwin, Australia) - Tuesday, August 23, 2011, Edition: 1, Page: 016, Record Number: CAV_T-20110823-1-016-305916, Copyright, 2011, Nationwide News Pty Limited. The first line is: "T HERE is nothing wrong with being a ``plus size in fashion according to top model Robyn Lawley , who will be appearing in the Mercedes-Benz Fashion Festival beginning in Sydney today. " The last line is: "Robyn said this pointed to a positive change within a world many associate with images of stick-thin and starving women. " She's mentioned in another article: Aussie who's breaking the fashion rules, Sunday Telegraph (Sydney, Australia) - Sunday, July 31, 2011, Author: ELLE HALLIWELL, Edition: 1 - State,Section: Features, Page: 110, Record Number: STE_T-20110731-1-110-074101, Copyright, 2011, Nationwide News Pty Limited. The first line is: "She's graced more high fashion covers than most models can dream of, yet Robyn Lawley can't fit standard sample sizes. The last line is a quote from her: ``I think including plus-size models in fashion editorials will eventually lead to designers using us on the runways. Someone has to start it for everyone else to follow." End quote. The Sunday Telegraph article also says "Having graced the covers of Vogue Italia and French Elle in the space of just a few months, New York-based Lawley has reached more success than most models. " The Wikipedia article has severe problems but having looked through Newsbank, I'm convinced she meets WP:GNG, especially as there are several articles exclusively about her. The article still needs a massive clean up though. :( --LauraHale (talk) 07:26, 16 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- All the stories about her, including that one, appear to be from mid-last year and are about her appearing on the cover of some magazines, so I think that it's only the one event. Nick-D (talk) 09:27, 16 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Newsbank has at least two articles from 2010. But yes, that issue kind of appeared to me too. :( My instinct was to vote delete. :( --LauraHale (talk) 19:44, 16 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: WP:BLP1E states that if "the event is significant and the individual's role within it is substantial and well-documented a separate biography may be appropriate." It then goes on to say that an event is significant if the "event or individual is indicated by how persistent the coverage is in reliable sources." Robyn has been in repeated and continuous news articles since 2010. In the modeling industry she is "taking it by storm." Besides news articles there are interviews,[5] commercials,[6] short films, [7] runway shows, blogs, and a facebook fan page with over 4000 followers from around the world,[8] which continues to grow daily. Plus-size modeling is not going to remain a "low profile event" and Robyn is continuing to "take the world by storm"[9] and break barriers in the fashion industry as she "paves the way for more curvy cover girls." [10] Also, from all of these news stories, interviews, runway shows, being on multiple covers of major high fashion magazines, along with her unique contribution to "plus-size" modeling, combined with her strong and loyal fan base on facebook, blogs, ect., she seems to satisfy notability under WP:NMODEL. I know I am a new member, however, that does not mean that I don't make a valid argument. I strongly feel that this article should stay. Mount1313 (talk) 23:58, 16 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Newsbank has at least two articles from 2010. But yes, that issue kind of appeared to me too. :( My instinct was to vote delete. :( --LauraHale (talk) 19:44, 16 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- All the stories about her, including that one, appear to be from mid-last year and are about her appearing on the cover of some magazines, so I think that it's only the one event. Nick-D (talk) 09:27, 16 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep: In the modeling world, a girl who is over size 10 and has graced the covers of Vogue (magazine), Elle (magazine), Madison and others are "significant" events. Robyn, being a "plus size" model, has done this and has been the first to do it in many instances. Furthermore, Robyn is one of a very few models who promotes a normal and healthy body type. This is one reason for her rise in popularity. Although she is still a raising model her popularity rises every day with continuing editorial and catalogue work. Which includes the Madison cover and interview that was released only this week. http://www.madisonmag.com.au/ Additionally, there are other numerous and extensive news articles, interviews, pictures and youtube videos devoted to Robyn. A simple google search will reveal her notability. This Wikipedia article might need some cleaning up to do but under the language of WP:GNG it seems to clearly pass muster. Mount1313 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 10:17, 16 February 2012 (UTC). — Mount1313 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
- I would like to further add that her notability extends world-wide. She is signed to agencies in Australia, UK, Germany, France, Italy, and the United States and has either done editorial, catalogue or fashion shows in each of these countries and beyond. Mount1313 (talk) 11:47, 16 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fashion-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:19, 17 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep: A google search clearly shows meets WP:GNG Doctorhawkes (talk) 09:44, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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