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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. There has been insufficient discussion to come to a consensus to delete this article, but a third relist is prohibited by WP:RELIST. There is therefore no prejudice against immediate renomination. Stifle (talk) 15:36, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Robert Ewing, III[edit]

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WP:NN photographer / newspaper worker. Appears that the only available references are his obit, which fails WP:RS and WP:BIO Toddst1 (talk) 16:55, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • This article was written three years ago before everthing had to have imbedded references. The subject is from a prominent newspaper publishing family, not just "a newspaper worker." Billy Hathorn (talk) 00:44, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:33, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. It was not just newspaper obits for the sources, but a news article in both the Monroe and Shreveport newspapers on the death of this Ewing publishing family member. Billy Hathorn (talk) 16:39, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:05, 28 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • My apologies for that. Missed that "obit" was short for obituary. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 12:56, 28 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - His father was a publisher and editor of a significant newspaper and definitely over the bar. I get the sense that this is son-of-the-father sort of material. Carrite (talk) 20:36, 28 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep There are no official notability guidelines that state obituaries can't be a ref. BejinhanTalk 02:33, 29 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, if you buy that an obit is a reliable source (dare you to find a non-obit one), how does the subject of the article satisfy WP:ANYBIO which requires either
1. The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for one several times.
2. The person has made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in his or her specific field?
Neither of which is asserted or demonstrated in the article, so he fails WP:BIO. Toddst1 (talk) 22:59, 29 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Your initial AFD point for deletion was that it "Appears that the only available references are his obit", the impression you're giving me and maybe the others too are that an obit is not a reliable source. Get that corrected.
Anyhow, I've strike out my keep per your points raised above regarding WP:ANYBIO. Bejinhan talks 04:00, 30 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Huh? My original afd comment [1] clearly stated he failed BIO. Regarding RS: most obits are written by the survivors. Any amateur genealogist knows they are filled with fabrications and embellishments. Toddst1 (talk) 14:40, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete At best a person of minor local interest, but certainly not WP "notable". Lustralaustral (talk) 00:03, 30 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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