Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rihan Miya
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The result was delete. Star Mississippi 19:39, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
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There is no coverage on him. He just happens to be running a business that got the media all excited that one time by securing an order worth $10,000 from India. Usedtobecool ☎️ 16:31, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople and Nepal. Usedtobecool ☎️ 16:31, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
- Delete This is the only other thing I can find, trivial coverage, basically an extended photo caption [1]. No extended articles on this person. Oaktree b (talk) 17:20, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
- Thank You for your reply but It seems that there might be a misunderstanding and you may search from google news in English language tried to search in Nepali Language(रिहान मिया) as he is from Nepal and He has coverage in almost every reliable news source in Nepal (I have also checked https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Usedtobecool/PSN). The references I have provided are Gorkhapatra [2], The Rising Nepal [3], The Annapurna Express [4], and Ujyaalo Online [5]. and many other sources like Nepal Samacharpatra [6], khabarhub [7], breaknlinks [8], nepalkhabar [9], DCnepal [10], sanghunews [11] ETC. Wikipedilogy (talk) 04:33, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
- Comment I generally agree with delete here but am not confident enough to !vote. My consideration, is this an inverse case of WP:BIO1E, where a person played a major role in a minor event, so there should be an article about the person rather than the event, if there is coverage of the event? Add to the mix that Midlaj was speedied for advertising. —siroχo 00:54, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
- Thank You @Siroxo for your reply, I don't know who crates the Midlaj article, but I searched for it and found it, and I made some contributions for more trust to verify my created article of Rihan Miya, but it's seen there might be some confusion between the creator of the Midlaj article and admin, so it's been speeded up for advertising and is not related to my article. Wikipedilogy (talk) 04:40, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
- We were not born yesterday, you know. Usedtobecool ☎️ 05:17, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
- You can check edit history @Usedtobecool Wikipedilogy (talk) 05:46, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
- We were not born yesterday, you know. Usedtobecool ☎️ 05:17, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
- Thank You @Siroxo for your reply, I don't know who crates the Midlaj article, but I searched for it and found it, and I made some contributions for more trust to verify my created article of Rihan Miya, but it's seen there might be some confusion between the creator of the Midlaj article and admin, so it's been speeded up for advertising and is not related to my article. Wikipedilogy (talk) 04:40, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
- Delete This is the only other thing I can find, trivial coverage, basically an extended photo caption [1]. No extended articles on this person. Oaktree b (talk) 17:20, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
- I had started an article for creation, but I was not happy with the consideration. The subject I have created has coverage in almost every reliable news source in Nepal (I have also checked https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Usedtobecool/PSN). The references I have provided are Gorkhapatra, The Rising Nepal, The Annapurna Express, and Ujyaalo Online. How can someone covered by all these reliable media not pass the notability guidelines and Nomination for deletion? There are few youth entrepreneurs in Nepal and from an export view, it’s rare, So the coverage by national media, and in my view it is great and notable work. Please check and suggest your opinion. Wikipedilogy (talk) 04:14, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
- "A topic is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list when it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." The sources are reliable but the coverage is not significant. In addition, they were all a one-time burst of human interest stories, likely originating from a single source. So, they do not count as multiple sources. If newspapers and magazines keep going back to him for more over the coming years, and start writing about him directly and in detail, only then would we know that he's an exceptional youth entrepreneur doing great work worthy of note. Usedtobecool ☎️ 04:40, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for reply @Usedtobecool, As in Nepal, news that keeps coming back to him over the coming years is only possible for political or artistic reasons. He became notable after exporting plywood, and after he did this work a second time regularly, no one would cover it as they said your export news was not new and had already been covered. So, We have supported the youth of our country to know him internationally so he can export more from our country, Nepal. Wikipedilogy (talk) 04:48, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
- We generally want to write about people who others will care about 100-200 years from now. If nobody cares after that one time, he's not suitable for inclusion on Wikipedia. Promoting youth entrepreneurship is noble goal, Nepal could certainly do with more of it, but it is not what Wikipedia is for. Usedtobecool ☎️ 05:11, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
- You're right, but one is better than nothing. Rihan Miya started exporting at the young age of 22, and I didn't see any news about who is exporting at this young age, so I am interested in making an article. We can say this was the first youth to export from Nepal, but this line didn't have any relevant source, and his starting point is inspiration for all the youth of the nation, and its article will inspire every youth for hundreds of years, in my opinion. In this International trusted source, Wikipedia, I just want to add my country's youth who is taking Nepal to the World without any personal interest (As I personally don't know him) because I can't do it, but he did, and now please remove it because it is considered for deletion because it has coverage in almost every reliable news source and meets Wikipedia guidelines, and it will contribute somewhere to present our country to the world. If you remove it, then we have to wait for another youth to export, but when this happens, we don't know. Let's show the world that our country's products also have great quality, and our youth can do business like other countries that meet International quality standards to export. One more thing: our news coverage in almost every reliable source will only be read by Nepal, but this Wikipedia article will be read by all around the world, so let this article be easily published. Wikipedilogy (talk) 05:44, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
- Can we close the discussion?@Usedtobecool Wikipedilogy (talk) 13:01, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
- An administrator will close it in a few hours. Usedtobecool ☎️ 13:19, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
- Can we close the discussion?@Usedtobecool Wikipedilogy (talk) 13:01, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
- You're right, but one is better than nothing. Rihan Miya started exporting at the young age of 22, and I didn't see any news about who is exporting at this young age, so I am interested in making an article. We can say this was the first youth to export from Nepal, but this line didn't have any relevant source, and his starting point is inspiration for all the youth of the nation, and its article will inspire every youth for hundreds of years, in my opinion. In this International trusted source, Wikipedia, I just want to add my country's youth who is taking Nepal to the World without any personal interest (As I personally don't know him) because I can't do it, but he did, and now please remove it because it is considered for deletion because it has coverage in almost every reliable news source and meets Wikipedia guidelines, and it will contribute somewhere to present our country to the world. If you remove it, then we have to wait for another youth to export, but when this happens, we don't know. Let's show the world that our country's products also have great quality, and our youth can do business like other countries that meet International quality standards to export. One more thing: our news coverage in almost every reliable source will only be read by Nepal, but this Wikipedia article will be read by all around the world, so let this article be easily published. Wikipedilogy (talk) 05:44, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
- We generally want to write about people who others will care about 100-200 years from now. If nobody cares after that one time, he's not suitable for inclusion on Wikipedia. Promoting youth entrepreneurship is noble goal, Nepal could certainly do with more of it, but it is not what Wikipedia is for. Usedtobecool ☎️ 05:11, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for reply @Usedtobecool, As in Nepal, news that keeps coming back to him over the coming years is only possible for political or artistic reasons. He became notable after exporting plywood, and after he did this work a second time regularly, no one would cover it as they said your export news was not new and had already been covered. So, We have supported the youth of our country to know him internationally so he can export more from our country, Nepal. Wikipedilogy (talk) 04:48, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
- "A topic is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list when it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." The sources are reliable but the coverage is not significant. In addition, they were all a one-time burst of human interest stories, likely originating from a single source. So, they do not count as multiple sources. If newspapers and magazines keep going back to him for more over the coming years, and start writing about him directly and in detail, only then would we know that he's an exceptional youth entrepreneur doing great work worthy of note. Usedtobecool ☎️ 04:40, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - If you were a journalist doing original work, this might be an interesting person to interview or follow, but doesn't meet WP's Notability requirements today. Denaar (talk) 22:19, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
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