Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rhys-Taylor

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Consensus is that this player fails WP:ATHLETE. Kevin (talk) 21:45, 11 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rhys-Taylor

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I stumbled upon this article and did some clean up but when I tried to move it to Rhys Taylor I found the target page was salted which led me to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rhys Taylor. Not sure if circumstances have changed so I'm bringing it here for community input. If the article is kept it should be moved to Rhys Taylor. NeilN ^{talk ♦ contribs} 14:20, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. He would appear to currently meet the notability guideline for sports figures since he plays for Chelsea F.C. now. News search would appear, however, to disclose other potentially notable Rhys Taylors, including a clarinettist (who seems to have even more news coverage than the soccer player) and a minor-league baseball pitcher. I suspect we'd eventually have to move this to something like Rhys Taylor (goalkeeper) if kept. - Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 15:26, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If he's played for Chelsea then yes, close as a speedy keep and move. However in the article it says he's made zero appearances for the club. That's why I'm unsure. --NeilN ^{talk ♦ contribs} 15:31, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. —Vejvančický (talk) 15:38, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:ATHLETE unless someone shows evidence that he has actually played for Chelsea. On their website he's in the reserves, not one of the 20 members of the first team squad. JohnCD (talk) 15:40, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Weak delete He hasn't played a first-team game yet [1], closest he's got is as an unused sub [2]. Don't think that's very different from where his career was at the time of the last AFD, although I'd have no objection to WP:IAR here since he seems to be very close [3]. Cassandra 73 (talk) 15:56, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep - He's been in a few reasonably large newspapers (and the Mirror) and a few of the articles have been solely about him and he's on the team for a professional major-league sport. Seems like he barely passes notability. Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 16:23, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've just added the Mirror but the article needs more sources - where did you find the ones solely about him? Cassandra 73 (talk) 16:45, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe this: [4], [5], [6]. --Vejvančický (talk) 17:01, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

(e/c) That Mirror "could-make-debut-today" quote is from nine months ago (they do their dates the British way round); and he's not "on the team", he's in the reserves. We keep getting "he's bound to play soon, so why not an article now" footballers - e.g. the seven times this has been deleted as Rhys_Taylor; I think we should stick to the WP:ATHLETE principle - he gets an article after he has actually played. JohnCD (talk) 17:05, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - he has yet to make a first-team appearance for Chelsea (unused subs don't count), and has thus failed Wp:ATHLETE. *sigh* DitzyNizzy (aka Jess)|(talk to me)|(What I've done) 23:40, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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