Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Return the Favor
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. MBisanz talk 00:33, 2 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Return the Favor[edit]
- Return the Favor (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (delete) – (View log)
- Turnin' Me On (song) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Both sides of a double-a-side single—non-charting, very little media coverage. Prods on both articles were removed without comment. Both fail WP:MUSIC#Songs. —Hello, Control Hello, Tony 12:33, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. —Hello, Control Hello, Tony 12:37, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Apparently "Turnin' Me On" was not released as planned—as yet only "Return the Favor" is available via Amazon or iTunes as a single track. —Hello, Control Hello, Tony 00:42, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep "Return the Favor," -seeing as it's the single, with a video- and delete "Turnin' Me Off." —Preceding unsigned comment added by FSX-2007 (talk • contribs) 17:24, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:34, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, kurykh 07:34, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- merge/redirect both to the album these singles are from. This small info fits quite well in the parent article `'Míkka>t 08:07, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete "Turnin' Me On" as it seems to have been cancelled and keep "Return The Favor", the song hasn't even been released to radio yet and the music video has just been completed, give it a chance, there are plenty of other less successful singles on wikipedia that remain, why not this one? - mos-def (talk) 16:53, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- COMMENT: Seeing as the video for RTF just premiered on BET, I saw keep it, delete TMO. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.163.27.141 (talk) 22:44, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- COMMENT: The official video of the song on Yahoo! Music: http://new.music.yahoo.com/videos/KeriHilson/Return-The-Favor--202141633;_ylt=AvAwjerSeUbk_ykc6ftLtTA1wSUv —Preceding unsigned comment added by TRyudo (talk • contribs) 23:28, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep the page, "Return The Favor" IT IS a single. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.252.177.210 (talk) 10:34, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Neither being released as a single nor having a music video impart notability. See WP:MUSIC#Songs for details. —Hello, Control Hello, Tony 16:00, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- But it being released on a major label does (Interscope is a major label, isn't it?). And Hello, Control, I don't understand why you're acting like a prude here; I had a Be bold attitude when I first came on, but ever since your standards for notability kept changing, I am now at a point where I am now afraid to contribute. In a nutshell, Strong Keep, like it would be when I first joined. Tom Danson (talk) 18:57, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- They're not my "prudish" standards, they're Wikipedia's standards. And they've pretty much been the same the entire time I've been here, and there's nothing in WP:MUSIC about major label singles being automatically notable. I'm sorry if you feel that I've scared you off, I can't imagine how I could've done that—I don't recall having bumped into you before. —Hello, Control Hello, Tony 19:32, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm not speaking to only you specifically, but to every editor who insists on following the letter over the spirit of the rules. Because I want to improve everyone's experience of Wikipedia, I choose to pull the Ignore all rules policy card. Tom Danson (talk) 06:09, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- They're not my "prudish" standards, they're Wikipedia's standards. And they've pretty much been the same the entire time I've been here, and there's nothing in WP:MUSIC about major label singles being automatically notable. I'm sorry if you feel that I've scared you off, I can't imagine how I could've done that—I don't recall having bumped into you before. —Hello, Control Hello, Tony 19:32, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- But it being released on a major label does (Interscope is a major label, isn't it?). And Hello, Control, I don't understand why you're acting like a prude here; I had a Be bold attitude when I first came on, but ever since your standards for notability kept changing, I am now at a point where I am now afraid to contribute. In a nutshell, Strong Keep, like it would be when I first joined. Tom Danson (talk) 18:57, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Neither being released as a single nor having a music video impart notability. See WP:MUSIC#Songs for details. —Hello, Control Hello, Tony 16:00, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete "Turnin' Me On" as it is a canceled single. Redirect "Return the Favor" as it is a single, but isn't notable yet. DiverseMentality(Boo!) 20:03, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz talk 02:39, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. I don't see how this passes WP:MUSIC now. Heavy elements of WP:CRYSTAL detected in the article. VG ☎ 11:47, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Question. Has everybody forgotten that [Wikipedia is not paper]? Tom Danson (talk) 05:44, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. coccyx bloccyx(toccyx) 20:39, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.