Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Retrotronics

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Cirt (talk) 08:24, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Retrotronics

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Does not appear to be an actual term; only one reference uses "Retrotronics" as a company name Rapido (talk) 20:52, 5 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete/Re-Merge - Appears to be a rare neologism, and is probably better covered as a single paragraph in its original article, Steampunk. - BilCat (talk) 22:53, 5 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Note that this was a discussed, completely good-faith effort to improve coverage of the term, but the section should probably have been expanded, with citations, in the Steampunk article first, then split off. As it is now, it's just a list of definitions. - BilCat (talk) 01:33, 7 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Although there's an overlap with steampunk, that's only one aspect of it. There's a large, maybe greater, crossover with the retro-futurists and that's quite distinct from the steampunks. There's also, probably the longest-established, genre being within audiophile hi-fi, and that has nothing to do with the "scenes". Andy Dingley (talk) 14:30, 7 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The "retrotronics" name was that suggested by the original proposer, and in the absence of any better suggestions, that's what it was created as. I for one would have no objection to a rename, should anything suggest itself. However I can't think of a term that's quite such a good encapsulation of the movement, without using a clumsy half-dozen words. Andy Dingley (talk) 14:30, 7 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Re-establish at such time and with such title that there is adequate coverage in published secondary sources. Wikipedia is not a dictionary and not a place to start a discussion of a field. --Bejnar (talk) 02:32, 9 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JForget 02:27, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep There are some reliable sources with articles about the subject matter of the article, but they do not all use the term "retrotronics" to describe the return of vinyl LPs in record stores or the hobby of building vacuum tube radios or crystal radios. I found the term "retrotronics" used in the New York Daily News without any need to explain what it meant, as if it were an obvious reference. An article in Japanese (Google machine translation) used "retrotronics" without elaboration to describe a USB a turntables and a device which transfers audio cassettes to digital devices. Other sources talking about modern use of obsolete turntables and vacuum tubes used the terms "retro-tech," "retro-aesthetic" and "retro flair." Some just say "retro electronics" such as [1], [2] and [3]."Retro electronics" could be used as the article title. (I would exclude coverage of the music style of that name and focus on technology). "Retro-tech" was used back in 1986 for word processors lacking the capabilities of computers. "Retro-tech" might be an appropriate title to move the article to, since it appears to cover the same desire to use yesterday's technologies, and has more references. So there seems to be a kernal of an article there about people preferring media of a bygone era, but it is too amorphous for me to give it a a strong keep. Edison (talk) 04:34, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As noted, I think the concept is certainly notable, and its restriction to electrical and electronic devices seems to be a feature of it, but this specific name is certainly much less so. Andy Dingley (talk) 13:36, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The concept behind the article is widespread, further than steampunk, and is discussed in relevant sources. Naming is a matter for editing. Andy Dingley (talk) 02:59, 19 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment As a finger in the air guide to interest in this article, the page view statistics are (AFAIK) interesting higher than any other article I've written, particularly a new one. Curious. Andy Dingley (talk) 03:00, 19 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.