Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Retraining of Racehorses

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The result was keep. v/r - T P 15:19, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Retraining of Racehorses

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Looks very much like a copyright infringement of [1]. See: Duplication Detector (I have only looked at 5 words or more...) Night of the Big Wind _talk 13:49, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - While there is some close paraphrasing, there appears to have been a reasonable attempt to modify the language. The bullets are the closest point of similarity, and for example raises funds from within the Racing Industry to help support the charitable retraining and rehoming of former racehorses is changed to Raises money to support the retraining and rehoming of former racehorses. Also, I am not sure that AFD is the proper venue for this... Clear, unambiguous copyright violations should be marked with CSD G12, and more subtle copyright issues should probably go to WP:CCI. As to whether the charitable organization is notable to our threshold of inclusion is another matter. Syrthiss (talk) 13:57, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:13, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. While we have several articles on individual horse retirement facilities, we appear not to have a general article on horse retirement or racehorse retirement, and the subject is not dealt with at racehorse or horse racing as far as I can see. - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 15:59, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Do we need those individual articles about the facilities or can we merge them with this article? Night of the Big Wind _talk 18:18, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  - I see a variety of similar institutions have individual articles --- Living Legends (charity), Thoroughbred Retirement Foundation, The Horse Trust, Kentucky Horse Park, Old Friends Equine, Alachua conservation trust --- and no general article about the general idea of places for racehorses to go after their time for racing is over. I have no opinion as to whether these institutions are individually notable enough to support separate articles, but I did think the situation odd. We do have a standalone article on animal sanctuary, which may be a more general instance of the same thing. - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 19:49, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    - Merging (some of) the articles might be an useful alternative for deletion. Is there a wikiproject about horses? Most likely they have the knowledge to merge these articles. Night of the Big Wind _talk 21:18, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Notable organization; hundreds of Google News hits; e.g. [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] etc. Chzz ► 10:57, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - and if Wikiproject Equine don't already know about it, chuck it over to them. They're an excellent bunch with extremely high standards. They'll probably end up getting it to FA! Pesky (talk …stalk!) 13:19, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- If have put a notification on their page here. Night of the Big Wind _talk 15:22, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  - Note that Wikipedia:WikiProject Thoroughbred racing is probably a better fit than the Equine Wikiproject. Ealdgyth - Talk 15:23, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    - No problem, request put down there too... Night of the Big Wind _talk 15:37, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep but upgrade: Needs plenty of work, but appears to be of sufficient notability as an organization, and affiliated with a major national group. I'd also consider adding a disambig tag (organisation) to the title, to separate the organization from the general concept of retraining racehorses, which is conducted by a number of rescue organizations. Or, possibly, merge with British Horseracing Authority. But it passes notability criteria as far as I'm concerned. Montanabw^(talk) 19:00, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Wikipedia:WikiProject Thoroughbred racing member here. Charity is the main one of its type in the the UK. This hadn't been added to the project until today (thanks User:Montanabw), so I hadn't seen it. Have added a ref and a section on notable horses involved. I created the Make A Stand article, so I really should have spotted this.Tigerboy1966 (talk) 00:00, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.