Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Reinhard Scharnagl

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The result was delete. Sandstein 06:02, 18 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Reinhard Scharnagl

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Article about Reinhard Scharnagl largely written by User:Scharnagl, and User:Scharnagl has more or less the same text (but in German) on his German use page (de:User:Scharnagl), implying that the article was written by the person himself. Looks like self-promotion and the person might not be notable. Only one source listed and that source is written by the person himself. I don't understand all of the text, but it seems that the page was deleted from the article namespace on German Wikipedia because of self-promotion and lack of notability: de:Wikipedia:Löschkandidaten/29. November 2005#Reinhard Scharnagl (Gelöscht) Stefan2 (talk) 21:36, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Per the 2005 de discussion. Does not meet WP:GNG. (there is a german review of his book [1] on a german chess site, but I don't think that's sufficient.)--Milowent • ^hasspoken 03:36, 11 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - just not seeing (or finding) any evidence of notability. Eddie.willers (talk) 01:00, 12 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Games-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:37, 12 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:42, 12 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete for reasons of the nominator. Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 03:42, 12 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fails WP:AUTHOR, WP:BIO, WP:N, WP:RS. Obviously just a non-notable guy writing an article about himself. WP:AUTO, WP:COI, WP:SPAM, etc.Qworty (talk) 06:39, 12 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• WP:AUTHOR is satisfied if "2. The person is known for originating a significant new concept, theory or technique." (See below re Chess960 numbering scheme.)

• WP:BIO (WP:Notability (people)) and WP:N are both re notability. Is Schanagl's Chess960 numbering scheme (see below) not "worthy of notice" that is, "significant, interesting, or unusual enough to deserve attention or to be recorded."?

• WP:RS (See below articles at ChessBase.com and Chess Variants Pages.) Ihardlythinkso (talk) 12:54, 12 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

For Capablanca Random Chess, he did what Fischer (and others) did for chess and applied it to Capablanca chess. That took less than 1 minute of thought. As for as the chess960 numbering scheme, any math undergraduate could come up with something like that in 10 minutes, in my opinion. Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 04:05, 13 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Here's what Christian Freeling, an established game inventor, said about creating Dameo, a game he believes and advocates as more deserving as the basic competitive "checkers" game, to replace International draughts: "That is why Dameo happened, quite unintentionally. Its rules fell into place in less than a minute." Abstract Games (Summer 2002), p. 10. Also, his game Hexdame, was a straightforward and literal translation of International draughts rules, from the 10x10 board and onto a hex board. (How much time did that inspiration consume? Probably less than one second. Yet the game is a place for draughts to go to escape what the inventor predicts to be the death of competetive International draughts due to high incident of draws and played-out positions.) It is easy to say something was easy that anybody could have done, when there is advantage of hindsight and a rear-view mirror. Is a game more notable simply because the inventor sweated over it over a longer period of time? I don't think wall-clock time or sweat-equity are reliable gauges to reject notability. Ihardlythinkso (talk) 04:28, 13 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Question – Doesn't this achievement alone render at least one but significant slice of notability (from Chess960 numbering scheme)?: "This mapping of starting arrays and numbers stems from Reinhard Scharnagl and is now used worldwide for Chess960." Ihardlythinkso (talk) 11:32, 12 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Another achievement to consider lending notability (from Capablanca random chess): winner, game invention contest, The Chess Variant Pages (2005).

• And this 5/5/2005 Chessbase.com article references Scharnagl and his program Smirf: Chess960 Computer World Champtionship.

• The de WP decision is the de decision, it shouldn't weigh in on the en WP decision, which should be objective and independent (until such time WP is all-world consensus). Because de WP is German and Scharnagl is German too, it is still individual person(s) rendering assessment re notability (and/or whatever) at de. Why can't the en assessment be *better than* the de assessment? (And in the event of Keep at en, is it impossible that the editors(s) at de would reconsider? [And why not?]) Ihardlythinkso (talk) 13:35, 12 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• (One more thing.) If it concerns !voters that the current article is majorly written by the subject and is thus NPOV, I promise to rewrite it NPOV if the article is Kept! Ok, Ihardlythinkso (talk) 14:02, 12 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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