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The result was delete. Geschichte (talk) 08:41, 2 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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City manager (city also has a mayor) of Covington, Washington, population 21k. Does not have major coverage, does not pass NPOL. Eostrix  (🦉 hoot hoot🦉) 07:36, 26 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Washington-related deletion discussions. Ⓩⓟⓟⓘⓧ Talk 07:41, 26 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]


What does NPOL mean? It does have a very local coverage though. It has been in the local newspapers multiple times. I am pretty sure there is a local SEO for it. and I am just trying to increase the volume of the articles. Qian Nivan (talk) 07:47, 26 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Please see the link WP:NPOL; it is the inclusion criteria for politicians for Wikipedia. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 11:06, 26 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 11:05, 26 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Being city manager of a small city in the 17K range is not a notability claim that gets a person into Wikipedia in and of itself, and referencing the article entirely to the city's own self-published website about itself is not how you source a person over WP:GNG. To be notable for this, he would have to be getting nationalizing media coverage far, far beyond just his own local media — every city manager in every city is always "referenceable" to the city's own website and/or a few shots of local journalism in the local media, but that does not make every city manager notable. As always, the fact that a person's existence is verifiable in primary sources is not in and of itself grounds for a Wikipedia article — to be includable here, a person has to be able to show properly sourced evidence of their significance, not just proof that they exist. Bearcat (talk) 14:19, 26 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete he is the city manager of a city with roughly 20,000 that is within the Seattle metro area, in fact probably one of the smaller overall cities in the county. This is not a regionally significant city in any way. His previously management in Ephraim, Utah was at least in a city that is one of the two major point of population in the county, and considering it is the location of Snow College, it may be the most populous point in that county, although it is overshadowed by Manti, Utah due to Manti being where the temple of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is, one of only 5 temples that have operated over 100 years (3 others in Utah and 1 in Hawai'i), and so Manti is historically the most important city in Utah between Provo and at least Cedar City. Still, Ephraim does not have the influence that would make its city manager a notable person by default and the sourcing is just not here. The city where I grew up Sterling Heights, Michigan, which has roughly 100,000 people lacks an article on any city manager as far as I can tell, although Steve Duchane I suspect would actually pass notability, but it would take a lot to find the coverage. He was the city manager for well over a decade. He was first removed in the context of the Detroit News Plant strike and basically running on a plank to reinstate him caused a turnover in the city council. That was in 1994 I believe. Than about 2006 Mr. Duchane was removed when during various disputes and lawsuits it was revealed he had lied on his resume and did not have the masters degree he claimed. I know if I dub out old issues of the Macomb Daily I could fully document this, as we could create a much fuller article on James Fouts the mayor of Warren, Michigan who really needs a better article (he was my high school government teacher in 1998-1999 when he was also a member of (and I believe at that time president of) the Warren city council. Our current article says way to little about his roughly 30 years on the Warren City Council. A big issue will be if Macomb Daily and even Detroit News coverage of Duchane is just local coverage, or if we can find something of higher quality. I have to admit that I think he is a crook and does not deserve any recotnition at all. If we do have an article on him it should reveal his lieing on his resume, but I just do not feel like spending the time to write such an article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:21, 26 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete City managers or city administrators, or even most staff of a municipality of any size would not pass WP:NPOL and would need to meet WP:GNG. Assorted local press would not get an individual over that bar. --Enos733 (talk) 16:57, 26 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Question I am not trying to argue on this article. But on my next article does it matter if a person has run for office. Qian Nivan (talk) 03:06, 27 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
And I was hoping to put more detail on all the cities around Seattle. It just happened to be that I live in Covington, WA. Qian Nivan (talk) 03:09, 27 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Running for office does absolutely nothing to establish notability. A person has to have held a notable political office that would pass WP:NPOL, and gets no bonus points just for running as a candidate per se. Bearcat (talk) 20:34, 30 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.