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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. slakrtalk / 02:19, 23 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ratchet (music genre)[edit]

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Not a notable or real music genre. Only a phrase. Koala15 (talk) 04:26, 10 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:21, 10 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. I agree with Koala, all of the sources in the article site DJ Mustard describing his music as "ratchet" (and no one else). There is no explicit statement that "ratchet" is a real music genre, just a synthesis of sources mentioning the word in various contexts. 2Flows (talk) 17:00, 10 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Agree with the two above. This is not a professionally recognized genre or subgenre that would be used to describe music in writing unless it had quotes around it. The subject fails WP:GNG. Also someone make sure to nominate Category:Ratchet (music genre) too. STATic message me! 19:10, 10 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Does not meet notability guideline: "'Significant coverage' addresses the topic directly and in detail, so that no original research is needed to extract the content. Significant coverage is more than a passing mention but it need not be the main topic of the source material". Dan56 (talk) 01:59, 11 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Dan56 has pretty much nailed the problem. I spent a lot of time looking for reliable and detailed coverage, but so far nothing. It might appear some day, but there is not sufficient coverage at this time for it to pass WP:NOTE.--SabreBD (talk) 12:03, 11 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I found this [1], [2] and [3]; all describing it as a new sub-genre of rap. But nothing very significant. Also, I don't find anything peculiar about it that differentiates it from rap music. Maybe we can have it in the future if it becomes more prominent. Harsh (talk) 17:17, 11 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete due to lack of significant coverage from reliable third-party sources. I've also nominated the category for deletion. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 08:16, 16 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge to DJ Mustard. I was working on a possible "Ratchet culture" article recently (which is a spinout from the colloquial use of "ratchet" that blew up with the Miley Cyrus twerking bullshit)—and I honestly don't know why the sheer amount of currently sourced RS aren't enough to show significant coverage here (and if it's not enough, then you'd love this fictional character discussion)—but, taking the spirit of WP:N into account, if those sources aren't good enough to show the notability of this (perhaps forced) "subgenre", at least we can salvage parts of the text for the DJ Mustard article. czar  23:00, 16 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.