Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rasha al-Harazi

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. This is borderline, but there is a weak consensus to keep as opposed to merge, and strong consensus against deletion. Vanamonde (Talk) 20:38, 12 December 2022 (UTC)

Rasha al-Harazi

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Unfortunate death, but al-Harazi was non-notable as a journalist before her death. Does not fulfill WP:JOURNALIST or WP:VICTIM. All sources only cover her in-depth after she was killed, with some initially referring to her as "a pregnant Yemeni journalist". Mooonswimmer 02:19, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

• Merge if not kept I've had a cursory look at the references (I haven't searched for additional sources) and this isn't a clear-cut case. I shall not voice an opinion whether this should be kept. I shall say, however, that if the decision is that GNG is not met, my suggestion is to merge this bio into a new article List of journalists killed during the Yemeni Civil War (2014–present), based on List of journalists killed during the Russo-Ukrainian War. Schwede66 04:57, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

  Thanks for your reply @Schwede66. May I ask what makes you think this isn't a clear-cut case?

  A List of journalists killed in Yemen article already exists, although it needs a bit of work. What do you think? Mooonswimmer 15:10, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

  My look at the sources was cursory. There were many. Some discussed the subject in some detail. I wasn’t sure that we had enough in-depth sourcing for it to establish notability. Good to hear that a target article for a potential merge exists. Schwede66 15:28, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

  Thanks @Schwede66 for your reply. I totally agree with you. Awam King (talk) 17:59, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

  There are many other Yemeni journalists killed during the civil war and i can list them all. Awam King (talk) 18:00, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women, Journalism, and Yemen. Shellwood (talk) 08:57, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. So is there a proposal to Merge this article with List of journalists killed in Yemen?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:11, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

Merge as suggested seems ok with me. Not enough coverage for an article by itself. Oaktree b (talk) 02:11, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

• Keep, a year later she is still making news and inspiring events:

1. https://alsharaeanews.com/2022/11/13/68281/
2. https://www.sada-alsahel.net/news/96719
3. https://ye-voice.com/news180697.html

(You can just use google translate to turn her name into Arabic and then search Google news for arabic sources to see more) I'm adopting WP:COAL so won't be monitoring for replies. CT55555 (talk) 00:09, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:52, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:31, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

• Merge Seems ok, I'm not convinced the sources given above are enough for GNG. already !voted, so this is more of a comment I suppose. Oaktree b (talk) 01:26, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

Yes, Oaktree b, you expressed your opinion, thanks for being a regular participant here at AFD. We could use a few dozen more. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:12, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

• Keep. Like User:Schwede66, I'm finding lots of sources about her murder in English. A gsearch for '"Rasha al-Harazi" death -wikipedia' returns 381 ghits, many of them from RS. Based on the resonance from more recent sources provided by CT55555, I'm seeing enough for at least an article about her murder. While the subject should surely be included in the list article linked above, sufficient material upon which to base an article exists, IMHO. My limited ability with Arabic hinders my effort to evaluate the numerous sources revealed by the search CT55555 suggests. BusterD (talk) 22:23, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
  • I feel compelled to add that nobody in this multi-week process has advocated a deletion outcome except the nominator. BusterD (talk) 22:25, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

Well, BusterD, I saw it as divided between Keeping the article and Merging it. Thanks for offering your opinion. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:29, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.