Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rangoon(Film)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Sandstein 11:49, 11 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Rangoon(Film)

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Incorrect WP:MoS on film titles, and WP: NFF violation as principal photography on the film begins only in October Krimuk|90 (talk) 08:32, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: The WP:MoS issue is an easy fix with a page move, and WP:CRYSTAL doesn't fully apply, as a film in production is easily verifiable. The article is not speculation. On the other hand, I've found many sources on this topic that I'll add to the article shortly. This appears to be a major film in India. BU Rob13 (talk) 08:58, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Per policy, only when principal photography begins, we can have an article on a film. Plus, the MoS of the article's name is incorrect, so even a redirect won't serve much purpose. --Krimuk|90 (talk) 10:49, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

As I mentioned, the MoS is easily fixable by a page move after the deletion discussion is completed. Could you link to the policy regarding principal photography? I'm unable to locate it. ~ Rob^Talk 17:02, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NFF explicitly states that "Films that have not been confirmed by reliable sources to have commenced principal photography should not have their own articles". --Krimuk|90 (talk) 03:07, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NFF states it shouldn't exist as a film, but WP:FFEVENT suggests it can be treated as an event when it has significant coverage even before principal photography, as this article does. It passes notability guidelines for an event as documented on the FFEVENT page. ~ Rob^Talk 03:32, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, and this is a film and not any random "event", so despite all of its pre-filming publicity it shouldn't have an article until the filming actually begins. That's explicitly what the guideline states. --Krimuk|90 (talk) 03:35, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The actual planning of the movie can be an event if it meets notability criteria as such. This is very common practice. It is not only written about in the essay I referenced earlier, but you can also see practical examples in most major films, such as The Dark Knight where the article was created on March 2006, but photography began April 2007. ~ Rob^Talk 03:51, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Incubate – The principal photography is yet to commence, but I don't think this is a case of WP:TOOSOON either. The project seems like confirmed. —Vensatry _(ping) 17:33, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Keep as many sources has reported that project has been finalised and locked. Principal photography is only for adding films title to artist filmography. Daan0001 (talk)

Your second point is a clear misinterpretation of the policy. —Vensatry _(ping) 08:03, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:35, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:35, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:INDAFD: Vishal Bhardwaj, Rangoon Sajid Nadiadwala, Rangoon Kangana Ranaut, Rangoon Shahid Kapoor, Rangoon

Soft delete of this stubby stub per simply being TOO SOON for a separate article under WP:NFF (paragraph 3). I've done my WP:BEFORE. So Daan0001 and BU Rob13... yes, the topic of this planned film is being discussed in multiple reliable sources and yes, policy allows that it may be spoken of, but guideline acknowledges that until filming begins a project can suffer from setbacks even if having a lot of pre-production/planning/casting/crewing coverage. So yes, since the efforts are sourcable, policy allows that we can write of it in the articles of its writer, director, producer, and stars. And in consideration of its coverage, we can allow a recreation/undeletion the moment we have confirmation of filming. And Krimuk90, a malformed title is always correctable and simply never a valid deletion rationale. Thanks, Schmidt, ^{Michael Q.} 09:20, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

And among the extensive coverage, just yesterday Bollywood Life and ApunKaChoice told us that filming is imminent. This one will be coming back very, very soon.

Schmidt, ^{Michael Q.} 00:50, 20 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Davewild (talk) 18:40, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment-Is this the same as Rangoon (film), which I looked up to see if that linked to anything and its another upcoming film with the same name. Wgolf (talk) 03:10, 27 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Nope. Different film. Different cast and crew. Different language. Only thing same is the name. Schmidt, ^{Michael Q.} 04:00, 27 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JAaron95 (Talk) 13:57, 1 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - principal photography has not begun, per WP:NFF. Guidelines are intended to avoid the waste of time and effort. They should not trigger fundamental discussions whether somebody agrees with them, at least not at this venue. Kraxler (talk) 17:09, 4 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Note: Someone else has created Rangoon Movie on the same topic. --Krimuk|90 (talk) 02:38, 5 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Rangoon Movie, as the information in that article is entirely duplicated in Rangoon(Film) and the latter is more comprehensive. ~ Rob^Talk 04:00, 5 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Merge Rangoon(Film) and Rangoon Movie. And retitle although the title can not be Rangoon (film) because that is a completely different film. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:45, 9 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Rangoon(Film) and Rangoon Movie have been merged into Rangoon (2016 film). Fortdj33 (talk) 16:50, 10 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.