Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ramakrishna Mission Boys' Home High School, Rahara

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎. Spartaz ^Humbug! 06:14, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ramakrishna Mission Boys' Home High School, Rahara[edit]

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No claim of notability. Schools aren't automatically notable. Subject fails NCORP and GNG. The sister article in bn-wiki is similarly poorly written and sourced. From my BEFORE search in Bengala, I found little that was independent and reliable. I am not sure about Samay updates. Chris Troutman (talk) 17:50, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Schools and India. Chris Troutman (talk) 17:50, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Education and West Bengal. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:14, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. All we have are primary sources, such as this self-lauding piece, links to the school's website, which the anti-virus software marks as shifty so beware, directory listings such as this, an Indian Express article about a former student, and a government-grant decision. Beyond those not much, really. The school exists but schools are not notable per se. -The Gnome (talk) 16:08, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep : Disclosing COI. From neutral point of view, this school is highly notable and respected. It got the best school award twice from the WB-Govt. Very old school with thousands of students. Recently, one alumnus got the Bhatnagar Award, 2023. The students of the school are wide spread not only in Bengal or India, but in the West with their reputed posts.

Supriyomj16022008 (talk) 13:14, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Is there an Indian equivalent to Newspapers.com, e.g. a database that has archives of Indian newspapers? Or is there an archive for whatever the local newspaper of record is for the high school's city/region? As I mentioned when I declined the PROD, a 79-year-old high school with 1,300 students very likely has some notability-qualifying coverage out there, but it doesn't appear easily findable, and without it this discussion will likely find consensus to delete. That sort of database is where such coverage would likely show up. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 15:54, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Disclosing WP:COI - As a beginner I have tried my best regarding editing of this article. Just now I edited the name of the Headmaster. Supriyomj16022008 (talk) 17:55, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to say - I edited the proper name of the Headmaster, but it cannot publish, may be due to some reason. His original name is Swami Muralidharananda not Swami Murgidharananda. Supriyomj16022008 (talk) 18:09, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:36, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, finally published the original name. Clearly said, Muralidharananda is a Sanskrit word which he got after his Sannyasa vow, meaning, get happiness to think about, who is holding the flute which refers to KRISHNA. Compare to this, the other name (Sorry, I don't want to write the name again) which I saw yesterday and really shocked, as I respect Wikipedia, was a bengali word, meaning I don't want to share because that word itself showed disrespect to the Headmaster of the School. Thank you. Supriyomj16022008 (talk) 04:09, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep- 79-year-old high school with 1,300 students, we have access to very little online sources, we could try asking people from the indian wikipedia. PaulGamerBoy360 (talk) 00:25, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Here is Some Coverage I Have Found: https://indianexpress.com/article/education/rahara-rkm-student-tops-wbjee-99-5-candidates-secure-ranks-7442428/, https://www.getbengal.com/details/75-years-of-ramakrishna-mission-rahara PaulGamerBoy360 (talk) 01:04, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Weak delete--it's all very thin, but I don't mind us keeping this. Drmies (talk) 01:13, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Weak delete -- I agree with @Drmies here, the sourcing is extremely thin, there is some MILL coverage of results (https://indianexpress.com/article/education/rahara-rkm-student-tops-wbjee-99-5-candidates-secure-ranks-7442428/) and alumni wrt to the school itself and a lot of coverage of the associated orphanage where the article goes "hey there is a school btw as well" (https://www.anandabazar.com/west-bengal/75th-year-anniversary-of-rahara-ramakrishna-mission-1.857235). Most of the other lofty claims don't appear to be backed by secondary sourcing. -- Sohom (talk) 03:40, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:28, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Weak delete per Drmies lacks indepth coverage.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 21:47, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as well. It's lacking in-depth coverage as is pretty thin, even in the sources mentioned above. Schools in practice tend to often have a little bit lower bar for notability, but sources like this just don't have any WP:ORGDEPTH or even focus on the school itself really. Wikipedia:Schools#Notability has more guidance on this, but I really don't see anything that's hinting at notability floating around out there from the geographic or org notability guidelines. KoA (talk) 01:13, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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