Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/RadioBBQ

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete. —Kirill Lokshin 02:15, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

RadioBBQ

Non-notable radio website vanity page by a serial cruftmonger. Alexa has never heard of this [1], and it appears no respected wikipedia editor has heard of it either [2]. Delete. — FREAK OF NUR_xTURE (TALK) 12:24, Jan. 19, 2006

• Delete per nom. PJM 12:30, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
• Delete --NaconKantari 21:27, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Serial cruftmonger? That's nice, real nice. How about you try and keep it civil "administrator" instead of being such an arrogant jerk? Alexa ratings are practically useless in determining notability.

This article has already survived an afd and proved it's notability here. Maybe you should read it. Here are some quotes from Alexa's that you should pay close attention to:

"The traffic data are based on the set of Alexa users, which may not be a representative 
sample of the global Internet population. Known biases include (but are likely not limited 
to) the following:   
The Alexa Toolbar works only with the Internet Explorer browser. Sites frequented mainly by 
users of other browsers will be undercounted. For example, the AOL/Netscape browser is not 
supported, which means that Alexa collects little data from AOL users, and our traffic to 
aol.com is likely lower than it would be for a more representative sample. 
The Alexa Toolbar works only on Windows operating systems. Although a large majority of the 
Internet population currently used Windows, traffic to any sites which are disproportionately 
visited by users of other operating systems will be undercounted."

I'm the main editor on the article? So what? There's lots of articles on wikipedia that are only edited by one or two people. Everybody that is knowledgable on a subject doesn't edit articles on wikipedia either. I don't really see much point in dignifying your afd with a vote. I will again point you in the direction of the original afd at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ThereIsNoRadio. The arrogance of the "I haven't heard of it so it must not be important" afd's is rediculous and I'm getting tired of defending articles I've worked hard on for these reasons. Randomgenius 21:45, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per nom -- Astrokey44|talk 00:01, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom Ashibaka tock 01:38, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

• Comment - At the moment I'm not convinced that this radio station is notable enough but I think we should give the author time to improve it.

I've just spent 30 minutes trawling through DCRTV news archives, which you mention in your article to have talked about you and I was unable to find any reference to the station. I'm not saying it isn't there (it is a terribly designed site so I might of missed it) but I couldn't find it. If ron and fez talk about your show provide a link to the archived show if you can. I'm afraid we just can't take your word for it. If you can cite your sources to back up your claims, I would be happy to support keeping this article.

On a side note responding to personal attacking by using personal attacks usually isn't the best way to go around things. Best thing is to ignore them and stay civil. Grandwazir 05:23, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Here's the links you asked for:

• I don't know what happened to the article in the archive, but here's a google cache from the Hideout website discussing the article in the forum from Oct. 21 2004 Hideout Forum Cache RadioBBQ on DCRTV The full text of the article was reproduced at The Asylum website RadioBBQ on DCRTV. It was also discussed in the RadioBBQ Forums

• Here is a link to a show log from Ron and Fez discussing one of the DJ's leaving RadioBBQ Ron and Fez Show Log

Randomgenius 09:13, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per nom MikeMorley 10:07, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

I've added a short section about the DCRTV article and the WJFK management's reaction to it to the article as well as a link to archive.org's snapshot of the DCRTV website including the article. Randomgenius 05:19, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.