Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Radicals of the Left

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The result was delete. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:37, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Radicals of the Left

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A party that certainly does not meet WP:GNG and that is practically not mentioned in any source, except in three or four unknown websites. Scia Della Cometa (talk) 20:42, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations, Politics, and Italy. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 21:00, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. A party or a political organisation can be encyclopedic even if it does not participate in elections. This subject is clearly worth of an article in en.Wikipedia as it is in fr.Wikipedia. The party's six years of history can and should be tracked. Luckily, several sources are available on the web. This said, if regrettably there is no consensus on keeping the article, I hope we can at least merge it into Italian Radicals. --Checco (talk) 16:15, 9 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Checco if you make statements, also have the kindness to demonstrate them. What are the sources on this party? The fact of existing has nothing to do with encyclopedic relevance.--Scia Della Cometa (talk) 17:04, 9 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Checking Google Books, I find several reliable sources for the political party "Radicals of the Left", but all of them deal with a political party in France, and a cadet branch of that party in Portugal. I find nothing about an Italian political party by that name other than Wikipedia mirrors. There is already a separate article on the French party, Radical Party of the Left. Banks Irk (talk) 20:06, 14 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 01:49, 15 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: @Checco I wouldn't want to be repetitive, but could you indicate the sources "available on the web" through which the "party's six years of history can (...) be tracked"? Certain statements need to be proven... --Scia Della Cometa (talk) 09:22, 17 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Checco I renew the invitation here too: if the sources on this party can be found on the web, could you show some of them? I didn't find them, therefore I would appreciate your reply...--Scia Della Cometa (talk) 23:02, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It seems to me that your reasoning is too conditioned by a recentist view. Do you think that it would be easy to find sources on the web on several current minor parties, like Volt Italy, ten or twenty years from now? More in-depth researches need to be made. There is no doubt that this party existed. There are also some sources on the web and you can easily find them. Just two examples among many others: [1] and [2]. --Checco (talk) 05:56, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

They are just two sources and from local newspaper articles... Before proposing this party for deletion, I did a search of the sources. Indeed, it is not important only that the party effectively existed, but that it had good source coverage. After all, I have found sources about some tiny parties that existed 25/30 years ago.--Scia Della Cometa (talk) 07:12, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:40, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Both of the articles cited by [User:Checco] appear to be reprints of press releases from the party itself, announcing the open and close of the party convention, respectively. Those references are insufficient to establish notability, so they don't change my assessment. If more sources can be found, that might sway me. Banks Irk (talk) 01:01, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Checking Italian newspapers I find the phrase "radicali di sinistra" but used almost exclusively in articles about the USA; none of them refer to an actual party in Italy. The articles listed by [User:Checco] report on a meeting held by the group but there is not enough about the group to achieve notability, and the articles were in sources that are limited in their geographic coverage. Lamona (talk) 03:26, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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