Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Racism in the LGBT community (4th nomination)
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Speedy keep. IRWolfie- (talk) 20:12, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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The article is a WP:COATRACK for anything that editors can infer is linked to this topic. For example, the sources in the section Antisemitism aren't explicitly about this topic. The article has been constructed by cherry picking any sources that seem to indicate that LGBT communities are racist and then an article was constructed around that. As the article already indicates: "There is no evidence that LGBT people are more racist than cisgender heterosexual people", so this article is essentially a non-notable non-issue. Wikipedia isn't wikinews WP:NOT#NEWS. An indication of the lack of notability or WP:WEIGHT is that not even one sentence is given to it in LGBT community. IRWolfie- (talk) 10:31, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Are you stateing you don't believe antisemitism to be a form of racism? I provided sources that exclusively call the incidents either antisemitism or racism. Whether you agree with it or not is up to you but I have reliable sources and I will back them up.-Rainbowofpeace (talk) 10:39, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Which reliable source says there is an issue of racism in the LGBT community with regard to anti-Semitism, or even mentions the concept. The sources in the article that I looked at, didn't.IRWolfie- (talk) 10:44, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- http://books.google.com/books?id=nvt8el4QtPwC&pg=PA44&lpg=PA44&dq=Antisemitism+LGBT+community&source=bl&ots=m9ud-LTpus&sig=b_KpMTjH8apkGYGHPPi5ox6Z7bM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=1ZhbUO3ZJMWfiAL8w4GgBw&ved=0CKwBEOgBMBc#v=onepage&q=Antisemitism%20LGBT%20community&f=false This one is the main one. It states very clearly that there is anti-semitism in the lesbian community.-Rainbowofpeace (talk) 10:52, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Where does it say there is antisemitism in the lesbia community. IRWolfie- (talk) 14:25, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy Keep, it was already been nominated three more times and always kept, the last discussion was closed as keep just one week ago. Nothing changed since then. If you have found something inappropriate in the last closure, a deletion review would be the appropriate move, not really a fourth deletion discussion four days later. Cavarrone (talk) 10:49, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy Keep, I can't believe I just said that but researching for the antisemitism section and now the new anti-arabism section has taught me alot about where I stand in the LGBT community. The sources on this site are reliable and the topic is notable.-Rainbowofpeace (talk) 11:02, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: Can I clarify something? Wasn't this article just at AfD and closed as keep without a single delete vote four days ago? Yet the nominating statement doesn't even mention this? How is this possible?--Milowent • hasspoken 12:43, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Not to mention the previous nominator, thats me has changed sides and wants to keep the article.-Rainbowofpeace (talk) 12:54, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- The article is being expanded as a WP:COATRACK with sources that aren't explicitly about the topic. Where does this source talk about racism in the LGBT community: [1]? IRWolfie- (talk) 14:28, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- The first paragraph? "racism and stereotyping within the gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender (GLBT) community." Since uou apparently ignored the prior AfD, its not a shock that you ignored the sources as well. I'd suggest you consider withdrawing the AfD, as you don't seem to have been aware of the history at the time. There's nothing wrong in a withdrawal, we all make mistakes.--Milowent • hasspoken 15:18, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- The article is being expanded as a WP:COATRACK with sources that aren't explicitly about the topic. Where does this source talk about racism in the LGBT community: [1]? IRWolfie- (talk) 14:28, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy Keep - This just closed as a keep on Sept. 27, 2012. Notability is not temporary, nor did community standards change in the last few days. Bad faith nomination or a huge blunder, trout for the nominator either way... Carrite (talk) 16:06, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I take the trout, I didn't notice the previous AfD's because I saw how new the article was. IRWolfie- (talk) 20:12, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy Keep - For the reasons cited above. Am86 (talk) 17:11, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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