Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ra Ra Riot

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. 'Mentioned in mainstream media news' or similar isn't enough - they must be independant and non-trivial. If the drummer's notable, heck, write your socks off. But at the moment, the article asserts no notability, and has no sources. Daniel 04:17, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ra Ra Riot[edit]

Strong Delete.Not very notable band, written like a fansite. Basically an article spouting Fancruft. Deletion Quality 16:39, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Not notable, agree on the fancruft above. themcman1 _Talk 16:44, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep Done more research and changed desicion. themcman1 _Talk 18:34, 8 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Ban fulfil notability requirements having been subject of article in NME: http://www.nme.com/news/nme/28721 and Billboard.com: http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003593382 77.99.135.197 17:29, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep per the articles found by the above anon user -- they appear to be the same article in two different places, but either way, there seems to be some notability at work here. They also have a (somewhat short) profile on All Music Guide. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(((Broken clamshells • Otter chirps)))} 18:47, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep and expand. Zerbey 19:21, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep. They're all over Google News - but most of the refs are regarding the drummer's death and there seems to be minimal reference to their actual musical career. 136,000 Google hits, too, but again a lot of that is blogs and similar refs to the drummer. However, hidden amidst all that, I do find non-drummer-related stories on CMJ.com, NME.com, a nibble on Buzzgrinder and a few others. I wonder if they'd meet WP:MUSIC without the news aspect of the drummer's death, however. Tony Fox (arf!) 20:31, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: - mentioned in mainstream media/news. Madder 23:25, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The missing persons case, and eventually discovery of the body is certainly notable, even if the band hasn't made any notable pieces of music.--Kylohk 09:39, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete the article say that the band has one self-released EP. Hardly notable by WP standard. The drummer's strange/newsworthy death does not render the band notable. Nabla 02:09, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment see related discussions at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Pike (musician) - Nabla 02:09, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
delete per nom. Chris 02:12, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no independent reliable sources covering teh band. There are articles about the death of teh drummer, but they are specifically about the drummer with little attention to the band. -- Whpq 16:51, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Apparently none of the members are notable enough to have articles themselves (all are redlinked). One of them died, that's it. No compelling claims that the band meets notability per WP:BAND (eg: published articles, chart hits, awards, competitions, use of music in media, radio play, broadcasts, certified gold sales, international touring beyond US and UK, major label support, unique style beyond run of the mill indies, etc.). No significant supporting info that meets Wikipedia:Notability (music)#Criteria for musicians and ensembles. --T-dot ( ^Talk/contribs ) 01:09, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete the articles mentioned by the anon are articles about the death of a band member. A dead person doesn't assert notability, unless he was already notable (and this guy wasn't) - G 1 ggy ^Talk/_Contribs 05:30, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletions. -- -- pb30<talk> 16:34, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.