Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/RK DreamWest

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Most of the comments favor keeping, but do not provide the type of evidence (reliable, independent sources providing significant coverage of the subject) that is normally expected to support a Keep. Since it has been relisted twice already, further discussion now seems unlikely to change this, so closing as No Consensus. RL0919 (talk) 17:20, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

RK DreamWest

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Non-notable filmmaker. The sources cited are either non-RS (IMDb etc.), or cover his films and not him. I can't find a single RS sigcov, not in the cites and not by searching; hence fails WP:GNG. I also don't think the two films or the two awards mentioned are enough to qualify him for WP:FILMMAKER notability. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:30, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

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• Keep I think the page may be retained for the following reasons.

1. The author added all recommendations by other editors 2. The page includes plenty of secondary sources including famous news outlets like Times of India, Indian Express, Mathrubhumi and Gulf news.

3. The person is active in the Malayalam film Industry since 2014 in various capacities though he started working on his first film 2016 ( from my research)

4. His latest film Fourth River won several International accolades

5. The only thing I can’t find is his interviews. That I think some film makers may not like to be visible or may have affected by the current pandemic isolations.

In my opinion.and to my research, he is an active filmmaker and he already announced his next movie and working on it. So, even if we delete the page, it may come back later with more references as he is on his next movie. Please keep the page.

One more thing why I request you to retain the page is that Indian-American filmmakers are a minority and keeping the page may help Wikipedia balance representation of filmmakers from all origins. So, It is my suggestion that you may please allow to keep the article. Rnair2020 (talk) 20:13, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

• Comment Thanks for taking part. Unfortunately, the points you raise do not address the lack of notability, which was the basis for this AfD nomination. I have explained more fully on your talk page. HTH, --DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:28, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

• Request Thanks DoubleGazing for your feedback. I fully understand your concern. Though he is an American citizen as per records, most of his works are in the regional language Malayalam. Most of the time articles are written in that language newspapers only. I went through many other biographies of filmmakers from the same region and I do see many are in Wikipedia with similar profiles. So, I request again to keep the article for six months or a year and watch how others contribute to his profile. For me, I spend enough time on this article and would like to move to other topics in my free time. It’s up to you now. Rnair2020 (talk) 19:07, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Keep - The director became notable due to Fourth River, the first Malayalam film to have an OTT release. Rajeshbieee (talk) 11:56, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

With respect, being "the first Malayalam film to have an OTT release" isn't a notability criterion; not even for the film itself, let alone for its director. --DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:05, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 12:03, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Kerala-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 13:03, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 23:33, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

• Delete: Only directed two films so far. Sources are covering only about his film Fourth River. I couldnt find sources worthy so far. Pillechan (പിള്ളേച്ചനോട് പറ) 07:58, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

• Keep - During the release of his second movie there were several discussion in the Malayalam TV channels and many progressive forums due the subject handled in Fourth River movie. There were objections initially from some political factions about the way the film depicted their history, and finally he released the movie in OTT platform (the first Malayalam movie to have an OTT release ever). He is a very active member of Asian-American film makers in US. He is notable and my recommendation is to Keep the page. 144.178.4.18 (talk) 17:43, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

• Keep This director made an impact and became popular after his theatrical directorial "The Journey"(2009) and "Uthirkaalam" (2013). Unfortunately, I don't have much citations of this handy. 73.147.101.121 (talk) 19:47, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

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