Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/R. L. V. Ramakrishnan

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The result was keep‎. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 17:58, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

R. L. V. Ramakrishnan[edit]

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R. L. V. Ramakrishnan

Inadequately sourced stub biography of a living person of an Indian actor and dancer. The one reference is neither reliable, because it is Times of India or independent, because it is an interview. There is also a draft, which has slightly more information but is still insufficient, which was in article space before it was (correctly) moved to draft space by User:Onel5969. This article only states that he exists. The draft states that he is an actor, but does not prove acting notability. The draft should be left alone for improvement, and this stub should be deleted. Robert McClenon (talk) 14:11, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers, Dance, Film, and Kerala. Robert McClenon (talk) 14:11, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose The subject is a renowned dancer from the state of Kerala and winner of Kerala Sangeetha Nataka Akademi Award, one of the state's top art awards. I could find significant coverage on a google search 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. I also found an academic paper "Men in Mohiniyattam: an ethnographic study on gender binaries", which quotes the subject multiple times. I can make slight improvements on the article based on the information from the draft and from the Malayalam Wikipedia article. Malayala Sahityam (talk) 16:36, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: I have expanded the article from one sentence. He is notable as a Mohiniyattam dancer who won Kerala Sangeetha Nataka Akademi Award. The article is now better sourced and passes WP:GNG. He also meets WP:ANYBIO because he received a well-known and significant award. Thilsebatti (talk) 09:29, 6 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Guerillero ^{Parlez Moi} 11:28, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 12:59, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Still doesn't appear notable, the acting parts appear minor. Dancing isn't enough for notability. Oaktree b (talk) 20:19, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: He is a winner of the state's highest art prize and he is notable as the first famous male exponent of the art form as cited in multiple references. His work is cited and covered in academic journals including one paper I mentioned earlier titled "Men in Mohiniyattam: an ethnographic study on gender binaries". Malayala Sahityam (talk) 01:19, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oaktree b, did you go through the sources, particularly the one from The Hindu [1]? He is not known as an actor, but as the first notable male exponent in Mohiniyattam from Kerala. Most importantly he is the recipient of Kerala Sangeetha Nataka Akademi Award. Comfortably passes two criteria listed in WP:ANYBIO.
The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for such an award several times (winner of Kerala Sangeetha Nataka Akademi Award)

The person has made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in a specific field (The journal Men in Mohiniyattam: an ethnographic study on gender binaries has a detailed study on his contribution to Mohiniyattam).Thilsebatti (talk) 18:05, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Before dismissing the award as "only a state award" remember that Kerala has a larger population than, say, Australia or the Netherlands. Phil Bridger (talk) 18:56, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Guerillero ^{Parlez Moi} 19:25, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

KEEP: per Malayala Sahityam and Thilsebatti. Kerala Sahitya Academy Award is a major award so he certainly meets ANYBIO criteria. 103.165.167.187 (talk) 09:06, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP:HEY. It has been improved enough for inclusion. Bearian (talk) 16:27, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as a recipient of a major award, and the improvements to the article. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 19:11, 5 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Although the quality of the article can certainly be improved (as it currently used the same source for two separate citations, lacks infobox, etc.), its notability is pretty well established with the cited sources. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 22:48, 5 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.