Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Psykosoul

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The result was keep. Yunshui ^雲 _水 07:25, 17 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Psykosoul[edit]

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Delete - Fails the mandatory criteria mentioned by WP:NALBUMS. Relying on one link (AllMusic) for the album rating. There is no point in having this article separate from singer's article. Horizonlove (talk) 03:30, 10 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. Horizonlove (talk) 03:30, 10 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Horizonlove (talk) 03:30, 10 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - In addition to being reviewed at AllMusic (already cited), it was also reviewed by Billboard [1] and was the topic of a Billboard feature article [2]. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 15:20, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - I don't think the Billboard review is relevant to this. Because again, this isn't necessarily about finding sources. However, even if this article were to include the Billboard review, it would still fail WP:NALBUMS. "Psykosoul" has no charted, has not won or been nominated for any awards, has no confirmed album sales, etc. According to Smith, she once acknowledge that this album never came out and she later dropped from Hollywood Records. And if that's case, this would be an unreleased album. However, she claimed to have released it herself as "Psykosoul Plus". Horizonlove (talk) 16:14, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as per the sources identified above which show a pass of WP:GNG and can be used to expand the article, regards Atlantic306 (talk) 15:42, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - If that's true, why hasn't no one expanded the article. It's been here since 2007. And mind you, there is only one source being used in article now, which is for the album rating, and then the source that User:Doomsdayer520 mentioned which has not been added to article. I understand you're a fan of hers, but you can't be bias to the situation. Mind you, it's not about if it can pass [[WP:GNG], it has to pass Wikipedia:Notability (music), which it does not. Horizonlove (talk) 16:14, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Why hasn't someone expanded the article? You are someone too, y'know. And interestingly, you have criticized the article's (current) shortage of sources, but provided no source for your own comment above on how the album was never released. If it was truly unreleased, I might recommend merging text about the album into the singer's article, but for now my vote remains as keep. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 16:46, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I hadn't even heard of her until your prods, also there are 5.6 million articles and a lot of them need improving so articles like this get forgotten. WP:GNG overrides WP:NMUSIC which in any case is mainly for musicians and bands not albums, and GNG also overrides WP:NALBUMS which is primarily a guide on whether an album is likely to be notable not a stipulation of notability in and of itself, thanks Atlantic306 (talk) 16:21, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment – @Horizonlove: Topics are not required to meet secondary notability guidelines (SNGs) such as WP:NALBUMS when they meet WP:GNG. In other words, meeting WP:NALBUMS is not mandatory when WP:GNG is met. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 05:24, 17 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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