Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Procxin
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Daniel (talk) 04:32, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
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Person fails Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Kim Se-young, also known by his in-game name Procxin, is a retired professional League of Legends player. When the article was created, he was a rookie on a bottom-tier LCS team, Team Envy (The LCS is the top-level league for professional League of Legends in the United States and Canada). He did not have any notable achievements during his career; his highest achievement was a third-place finish in Korea's second tier league. CentreLeftRight ✉ 19:12, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
- Delete A non-notable League of Legends player. John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:16, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of South Korea-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 19:30, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 19:30, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 19:31, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Oaktree b (talk) 19:55, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
- Keep Playing in the top North American League is enough of an accomplishment for Wikipedia notability, not to mention the subject has been covered in reliable sources like ESPN and The Daily Dot/Dotesports.--Prisencolin (talk) 01:32, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
- Comment: I do not think every person who has ever played in a Tier 1 esports league is deserving of an article. Finding mentions and descriptions in multiple reliable sources is one part of establishing notability, but what is Procxin's "claim to fame"? If you are an esports-focused writer for a major publication, of course you will write about as many people as you can since it is your job. Procxin was a promising rookie from Korea during his early days in the NA LCS, but that is all his career amounts to. He did not win any rookie awards during his time in the United States, never placed higher than 5th/6th in a Tier 1 league's playoffs run, and is generally unknown amongst contemporary fans. Of course, establishing his notability is not limited to achievements alone, but there is nothing unique about his career either. He was not the first Korean player/promising rookie in the United States, nor the only (at the time), nor best, etc.
- TL;DR: The question I asked myself before the nomination was, if I asked a dedicated fan of the LCS who Procxin was, would they remember? In my opinion, the answer is no—he did not have any notable achievements during his career, he's been out of the professional scene for over four years, hasn't streamed or done anything League of Legends/esports-related since, and is currently serving out his mandatory military service in the ROK Army. CentreLeftRight ✉ 05:28, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
- Delete: Players in massively multiplayer online role-playing games are not notable. Article fails WP:BASIC --Whiteguru (talk) 07:28, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
- Comment: Just clarifying again that I am proposing this deletion because Procxin is no longer involved in the esports scene (i.e. not a professional player in any top-tier leagues or a notable content creator), did not achieve any notable success during his former career as a professional player, and is unlikely to gain any notability in the future (is currently a regular soldier in the ROK Army). The content in the sources given do not establish any notability for, nor focus on, Procxin, and mention him in passing. I am not proposing this deletion because League of Legends players are inherently insignificant or difficult to establish notability for. CentreLeftRight ✉ 08:06, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.