Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pro-American sentiment (2nd nomination)
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Deleted as an WP:NPOV violation. (aeropagitica) (talk) 12:52, 29 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Pro-American sentiment[edit]
the whole article is unsourced, and phrases like "Many Europeans are still grateful to the United States and other allied forces for their participation in World War II and the sacrifice of so many American lives in defeating Fascism in Europe" this phrase is POV and an original idea, see wikipedia:what wikipedia is not. furthermore this is a short, badly planned article detailing an individual's opinion, and does not deserve a place on our encyclopedia!, Frogsprog 18:12, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete This is a massive POV fork beyond the point of being salvaged. It's nothing but unsourced POV and weasel words. --Wafulz 18:24, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong delete - If there were anything useful here, it could be used in an article that discusses global attitudes to America, but there isn't so... goodbye. Blowski 18:25, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete article is all about POV, which is what Wikipedia tries to get away from. --Mecanismo | Talk 18:34, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Self proclaimed "Anti American" (and contributor to Anti-American sentiment) editor goes on a tagging spree on the article and then nominates for deletion. My ability to AGF is being tested here. Me thinks someone wants to make a point and can't stand this article. Recommendation, improve article and keep.--Kalsermar 18:40, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Whole article is POV, the anti americanism article is very well sourced and informative, this is an american patriotic statement, I am interested in American politics although I dislike the government and upon reading this article I knew something had to be done, I tagged using every tag I could find but no edits were made, so AfD was neccasary--Frogsprog 20:00, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- True, my apologies, you did give it a whole 3.5 hours to see whether any edits were made before AfD. Point is, this article needs a lot of work but there is, I'm sure, material that can be found for this. AfD is not meant to remove article content that is pov or something like that.--Kalsermar 21:13, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Whole article is POV, the anti americanism article is very well sourced and informative, this is an american patriotic statement, I am interested in American politics although I dislike the government and upon reading this article I knew something had to be done, I tagged using every tag I could find but no edits were made, so AfD was neccasary--Frogsprog 20:00, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete POV minefield with weasel words such as "...arguably...probably...some people...". A divisive issue, not tackled adequately either by the conception nor scope and execution of the article. (aeropagitica) (talk) 20:12, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per aeropagitica --Guinnog 20:43, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Textbook example of a POV fork. –NeoChaosX (talk | contribs) 21:08, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge to Allegations of state terrorism by United States of America. Tom Harrison Talk 23:42, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Sorry I disagree here, the article you have suggested to merge with is completely unrelated, it's an article about alleged crimes of US governments, this is an article about a pro-american ideology, however I do think this could have been a decent article, possibly with a different title, and a lot more thought, but to repeat myself again, "this article is now unsalvageable." --Frogsprog 10:27, 26 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Most people do not find repeated assertion very persuasive. Tom Harrison Talk 13:15, 26 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- No problem; This is the place to discuss. I was replying only to your "repeat myself again" point. Otherwise, I've given my opinion and am content to leave the outcome to the closing admin. Truthfully, I too would like to see a citation for "Many Europeans are still grateful to the United States and other allied forces for their participation in World War II and the sacrifice of so many American lives in defeating Fascism in Europe." Tom Harrison Talk 16:37, 26 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Sorry I disagree here, the article you have suggested to merge with is completely unrelated, it's an article about alleged crimes of US governments, this is an article about a pro-american ideology, however I do think this could have been a decent article, possibly with a different title, and a lot more thought, but to repeat myself again, "this article is now unsalvageable." --Frogsprog 10:27, 26 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. I'm extremely wary about almost all ethnic "Anti-X'ism" or "Pro-X'ism" articles, they are all POV and OR magnets. While I've seen even worse, this sure is a bad one. SchipperAnnetje 19:08, 26 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete It will cause more trouble than it is worth and I would never trust an article in this format or recommend it to anyone else. Piccadilly 13:28, 28 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.