Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Prem Dhiraal

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The result was delete. Consensus is sourcing is of insufficient reliability/quality and depth Star Mississippi 15:13, 6 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Prem Dhiraal[edit]

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The subject has sung 6 songs in 4 non-notable films. The subject fails all the criteria of notability guidelines for singers.
The subject has also acted in two non-notable films, which appear to be trivial roles, failing notability criteria for actors.
All the coverage is in the form of press releases, or seemingly paid articles. I couldn't find any significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources. Thus making them fail general notability criteria as well. —usernamekiran (talk) 11:01, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers, Bands and musicians, and India. —usernamekiran (talk) 11:01, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I don't find much for coverage of this person, beyond confirmation that they exist and the songs are as noted. Oaktree b (talk) 16:36, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: fails WP:N and WP:GNG. MurrayGreshler (talk) 21:37, 28 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment – Below are two independent sources that provide significant coverage:

"Prem Dhiraal is going to become a hero from zero in Bollywood". Ahmedabad Mirror. Retrieved 29 November 2022.
Staff Reporter (21 May 2021). "Prem Dhiraal, singer-turned-actor from Chandrapur, takes a big leap". The Hitavada. Retrieved 29 November 2022.

– North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 12:37, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: For consideration of the newly provided sources.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 12:46, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

~~Agree that these two sources are not enough to establish notability. Olivierjohnston (talk)~~ 15:30, 1 December 2022 (UTC) (sock strike Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:04, 3 December 2022 (UTC))[reply]

The sources above look like significant coverage, I had come across Hitvada in my WP:Before. However, Ahmedabad Mirror seems to be gossip/tabloid-isq, and I have doubt it may be PR/paid work. Anyways, these two sources are not enough to establish notability. —usernamekiran (talk) 12:09, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: As above mention two sources are not enough, but if we search in details with the name of Prem Dhiraal found there are available more articles, as per links we found Dhiraal worked as lead more than 2 films with notable references, my openion is we have to keep this article on based of their works and references, If we look at Wikipedia Pageviews Analysis of last month it's the large number of pageviews counted means people are visiting and searching his name that's showing he is a notable person; many times the references are not parameter to judge the notability, as per wikipedia policy wikipedia is encyclopedia that's helps people to give knowledge of article based on their search, on the google search Prem Dhiraal showing as notable person based on their lot of work, knowledge panel, all websites search listing, so my suggesgion is keep this article and help to expand it. — Sams321 (talk) 16:50, 4 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Liz: — Preceding unsigned comment added by MurrayGreshler (talk • contribs) 10:18, 6 December, 2022 (UTC)

note: Sams321 is creator of the article, and has been blocked for UPE. Before being blocked, and after the AfD, the editor tried to add misinformation by claiming the subject started his career in 2012. The tables in article mention 2018 for film debut, and 2019 for singing career. Also, the Hitvada claims "his albums were released by reputed music companies like T-Series, Shemaroo, Ultra Bollywood." and later quotes him "Ultra Bollywood owner Jayesh Veera encouraged me to try my luck in the field of acting[...] The claims of his albums can not be verified at all. Furthermore, the source claims that Dhiraal holds Guinness World Record for 815 hours of singing continuously. That is nothing but falsehood. Apparently, Hitavada has been compromised as well. —usernamekiran (talk) 06:20, 6 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.