Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Polar Mobile

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete, technically speedy delete. The only editors who have added substance to the article have concurred in its deletion. - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 20:53, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Polar Mobile

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Unremarkable company with no substantial references offered to assert notability. Article creator is a marketing intern at the company (see Google) so clear COI Simple Bob^{a.k.a. The Spaminator} (Talk) 22:46, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I would agree about the COI Bob, but after looking through the article and references, I would say that this company is not unremarkable. It is definitely going places. I edited this article slightly as well to make it a bit more substantial. However, I will let you and the other administrators do what you think is right. Thank you. Buddy1965 (talk) 00:39, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. — • Gene93k (talk) 01:26, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. — • Gene93k (talk) 01:26, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This company is on the Deloitte Canadian Fast 50 company list- it's pretty noteworthy. In my opinion, it would be unwise to delete this page when the company is growing that quickly and gaining so much attention.Buddy1965 (talk) 01:35, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Inclusions on lists of similar business do not count much for notability, especially ones that have 49 other non-notable businesses on them. This is a mobile solutions provider. Leaving aside the fact that the description begs the question, "Mobile what?" a description as a "solutions provider" is an automatic breach of neutrality policy and grounds for speedy deletion. - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 14:36, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the input. I would like to point out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_Systems, because I don't understand why this page has not been tagged for deletion yet Polar Mobile's has. It clearly states, "July Systems is the leading provider of cross-platform mobile solutions to businesses worldwide. The cloud -based mobile platform allows businesses to build, manage, market and monetize rich mobile experience easily, quickly and cost effectively." It seems strange to me that promotional pages are left like this while other company pages with a more neutral tone are tagged for deletion. Just something to consider, even though I don't think it will make a difference. Thanks again, 64.34.71.100 (talk) 15:56, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Alas, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/July Systems. I agree; that article needs some serious scrubbing. The existence of other articles generally is not a strong argument for including another, and the fact that there are dozens of spammy articles out there that should not be taken as models of style or content is one of the reasons why. If this business been recognized as genuinely remarkable so that it's had had significant effects on the development of technology or culture, go ahead and add them; but stuff like making a Top 50 list from an analyst firm does not establish any of those things. - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 17:09, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the comments. I'm glad the other article is being edited/deleted. I am able to give evidence of this company's significant effects and being genuinely remarkable, which I will add shortly. Cheers, 64.34.71.100 (talk) 17:25, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I have added some references and information to the article that should prove that the company is genuinely remarkable. Please take a look at the references and let me know if I should change or add anything. Thanks, 64.34.71.100 (talk) 18:50, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. You will need third party references for those claims as well. - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 19:10, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, can you clarify what third party references means? What has to be done for that? Thanks, 64.34.71.100 (talk) 19:56, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. You'll find an extended discussion at the Verifiability and Reliable source pages. - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 21:23, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

NOTE. The IP address 64.34.71.100 (talk · contribs), which has made several contributions to this AfD discussion is registered to Polar Mobile. --Simple Bob^{a.k.a. The Spaminator} (Talk) 15:53, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This article is much more trouble than it's worth. I was not aware of how difficult creating it would be. Admin, feel free to delete this article along with all history of the page. Thank you, 64.34.71.100 (talk) 16:10, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please delete this article. I have read the COI page and I apologize for not knowing this before starting the article. In the future, hopefully an outside source will create the company page. Thanks for the help. Nicole.pitre (talk) 16:16, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - non-notable per WP:CORP, no substantial coverage by reliable sources to demonstrate notability. The company may be "going places" but it hasn't got there yet. If it does, then someone without a COI can create an article. There is no deadline. ukexpat (talk) 18:47, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with the above statement ^. Buddy1965 (talk) 19:55, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.