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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Consensus was that the subject meets WP:NPROF (presumably C1).

For concerns of promotion, the issue seems to have been addressed. (No actual consensus about promotion here, but editing should be preferred unless the article is purely promotional.) (non-admin closure) ~ Aseleste (t, e | c, l) 08:50, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Pieter Ballon[edit]

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PR, notability lacking, product of paid editing: see Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard#Jacobmcpherson_paid_editing Acousmana (talk) 19:46, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Acousmana (talk) 19:46, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 20:15, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Belgium-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 20:15, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • weak keep no clear indication of WP:GNG if he is truly an "expert" on smart cities there should be some international coverage to support this. However, citations are decent in a low-citation field with 8 papers with 100+ citations so according to WP:NPROF I think he would pass the bar. --hroest 23:11, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz talk 18:29, 20 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Chiro725 I agree with the citations, but how does he pass NPROF#6 ? I dont think that he "has held a highest-level elected or appointed administrative post at a major academic institution or major academic society.". --hroest 01:57, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hannes Röst I am free to change my vote. I thought "Ballon is the director of SMIT (Studies on Media, Innovation and Technologies), a research group that is affiliated with VUB and IMEC, and the scientific director of the Knowledge Centre Data & Society" this may qualify for WP:NACADEMIC#6. Chiro725 (talk) 02:03, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Chiro725 NPROF#6 is usually reserved for the president of a university (highest-level elected office), but this he is clearly not. Basically being the "director of a research group" does not mean more than just being a professor that gave his research group a fancy name. To fulfill NPROF#6 he would have to become president of VUB. Btw, he could meet NPROF#5 as a named chair. In either case, I think the citations may just be enough to clear the bar. --hroest 02:09, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hannes Röst understood and agreed. Chiro725 (talk) 02:10, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.