Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Piero Mazzi

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The result was delete. MBisanz ^talk 02:33, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Piero Mazzi

Fails notability since June 2007. The article was tagged by the Notability wikiproject. I am just copying the reason from the Talk Page: It is currently unclear whether this artist is notable enough for an article on Wikipedia, since no proper secondary sources are cited. By the notability criteria for biographies, independent reliable sources are required to make sure that the subject is notable. These sources might be, for example, an independent biography of the person, or press coverage in which he is covered in depth.

Currently, the article only points to a text "Piero Mazzi" of unknown origin; in fact, this does not seem to be a published book, at least I was unable to find it via the usual sources. If it is a independent source and not a self-published booklet, please make the reference more precise, e.g. by adding an ISBN number.

Also, I have my doubts whether the museum makes this person notable. First, dedication of a building, etc. to the person is not regarded as a fact establishing notability. Second, if the museum shows work of the artist, then it should be made clear that this museum has received sufficient recognition, say by press coverage in major newspapers. In the current state, there is no evidence in the article that the museum is not only a private, non-notable collection.. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:09, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete -- I also cannot find confirmation of the book, the museum, or in fact any other reliable or semi-reliable reference to the artist at all other than what appears to be his own web site. Jfire (talk) 15:14, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:00, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NuclearWarfare ^{contact me}_{My work} 23:14, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - There appears to be some sources available in Italian. I was able to find this relying on machine translation. An editor proficient in Italian may be better equipped to do the necessary research. The information in the article is npit sourced, but can be trimmed out and stubbed. -- Whpq (talk) 14:57, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

So he had a commercial exhibition in Elba, and ....? Johnbod (talk) 00:57, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

...and sources may be available in Italian, but I can't read Italian. That I managed to find one despite this handicap indicates that there are more available to an editor who has some proficiency in Italian. We delete articel the are unsourceable, not merely unsourced. -- Whpq (talk) 02:06, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well you can bid on an oil on board painting of his on Italian ebay here - 42 bids to get to €120 so far. That seems to be it. Johnbod (talk) 02:49, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Italy-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 15:31, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete Not ready for this encyclopedia.....Modernist (talk) 03:12, 19 October 2008 (UTC) see below.[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~ L'Aquatique[talk] 04:35, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete No sign of meeting the criteria. Johnbod (talk) 13:17, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Strong keep, per Whpq. Fumoses (talk) 14:10, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Not ready for this encyclopedia.....Modernist (talk) 11:50, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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