Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Phoenix Recordings

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. The two references in the article are not reliable sources. Fails WP:MUSIC. WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not a valid reason to keep this particular article. KrakatoaKatie 02:20, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Phoenix Recordings[edit]

Per WP:MUSIC, unreleased albums/demos/etc. are not notable without substantial coverage in reliable sources. (Technically, this isn't really a demo or unreleased album, but it's similar enough.) No reliable sources included, none found. (Prod expired but article was not deleted.) Mdsummermsw (talk) 14:18, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. ArcAngel (talk) 14:19, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: I will not comment on whether or not the article meets our inclusion guidelines or not, however, I will state that the article was deleted due to an expired PROD tag, but User:K8 fan later objected to the deletion. I restored the page out of courtesy. - Rjd0060 (talk) 14:25, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My bad, I should have checked. AfD nom stands. - Mdsummermsw (talk) 14:32, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete generally speaking, demo/unreleased/bootleg recordings (this is all three to some extent) even of major artists are not notable. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 15:12, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You sure?. You really sure?. You really really sure? --Oakshade (talk) 23:50, 3 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - I am aware that other articles exist which may or may not fail WP:MUSIC's guideline that bootlegs and unreleased albums are generally not notable. I'm working on it. The "unreleased albums" category on 19 March 2008 had 84 albums listed. 10 of those were miscategorized. 28 (so far) have been deleted. 8 more are working on deletion right now. Most of the rest seem to pass the guidelines at WP:MUSIC. Then it's on to the bootlegs. Some are certainly notable (The Grey Album comes to mind), some certainly are not. - Mdsummermsw (talk) 17:13, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Recording by extremely popular international star in itself demonstrates notability. Wikipedia has a whole catagory for for bootleg albums and another for unreleased albums --Oakshade (talk) 23:50, 3 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Wikipedia:Music#Albums says "Demos, mixtapes, bootlegs, promo-only, and unreleased albums are in general not notable; however, they may be notable if they have significant independent coverage in reliable sources." This one does not have significant independent coverage in reliable sources. - Mdsummermsw (talk) 17:13, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp (talk) 15:28, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.