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The result was nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Logan Talk Contributions 00:32, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Phillip Blashki[edit]

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Unremarkable person. No independent references and no assertion in the article of why this person is notable. Simple Bob a.k.a. The Spaminator (Talk) 20:58, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

According to family tradition (he was my great grandfather) he and his wife arrived in Australia with five shillings and a doormat. At the end of his life he was a Melbourne City magistrate and his firm not only had supplied masonic regalia to many Australian notables but had also designed and made the Sheffield Shield which is still the cricket trophy fought for by all the States of Australia (and it bears a note of the maker's name). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gumbell (talk • contribs) 23:48, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment I suspect that the subject is notable, although the article as written at present is more in the lines of a family history rather than an encyclopedia article. Perhaps the best thing at this stage is for the article to be userfied for the creating editor to work on while it comes up to speed. -- Mattinbgn (talk) 00:47, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Phillip Blashki was indeed a remarkable person. The subject of the 1986 biography "Phillip Blashki - A Victorian Patriarch" (Hamer. G. ISBN 0 9589451 0 1), He was associated with numerous, societal and charitable events and causes and as a jeweller produced a number of notable items of public importance, including Australian cricket's 'Sheffield Shield' commissioned by Lord Sheffield in 1894 and the NSW Cricketers Association's 'Horden Shield'. The Sheffield Shield cricket competition is Australia's premier, interstate competition and is regarded world-wide as 'first-class' cricket, for the purposes of national selection and cricketing statistics.
The name Phiilip Blashki is synonymous with the history of Freemasonry in Victoria. Blashki held various offices in several Lodges over a period of 40+ years and was appointed District Grand Warden under the British Constitution. His business 'P. Blashki and Sons' which was established in 1958, is recognised as Victoria's (and one of Australia's) primary suppliers of Masonic regalia.
Phillip Blashki was a justice of the peace for many years and became actively invloved in the Victorian judicial system as magistrate of the city court. In 1914 he was one of Lord Mayor Hennesey's invited dignatories at the opening of the Melbourne City Court. As recognition for his work as a J.P., philanthropist and community leader, Blashki was one of the invited guests at the opening of the first federal parliament at the Exhibition Buildings.
Blashki helped in the foundation of the Victorian Chamber of Manufacturers and was instrumental in founding and/or the early development of a number of communal and chariatble organisations (including the provision of seed funding in some instances). These included the Melbourne Jewish Aid Society, Melbourne Cemeteray Trust and Melbourne Freemeson's Homes.
While in his times having 14 children may not have been remarkable in itself, many of the children of Phillip Blashki, his 55 grandchildren and countless further decendants have themselves been, or currently are leaders in various fields of enterprise and community. User:Leigh.blashki|Leigh.blashki (talk) 22:27, 16 January 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leigh.blashki (talk • contribs) 00:25, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

References in archives of the Jeweish Museum of Australia, Melbourne. The small portable scales he used to weigh gold as a hawker are on display. His name is on the burial house (Metahar House) for Jews at Brighton cemetery where he was the first Trustee on the Bosrd, elected to represent Jews. The front page of the Melbourne daily newspaper "The Herald" carried his photo and a long story about him on October 21st 1916, as he was the Chairman of the first City Court Bench in Russell St. Most Australian newspapers have references about Blashki at some time. When he retired , at age 70, from duty as a Justice of the Peace at the City Court, an illuminated address was presented to him by the Prime Minsiter, Alfred Deakin, signed by 30 of the solicitors who worked with him. References include some out of print books from the 19th and 20th century. 'The Jews in Victoria an the Nineteenth Century' L.M. Goldman 1956, Rubinstein, W.D. and H.. Rubinstein 'The Jews in Australia: A Thematic History' 2 vols, William Heinemann, Port Melbourne, 1991. 'Phillip Blsshki; A Victorian Patriarch', Gael R. Hammer, 1986 ISBN 0 9589451 0 1', Victorian Governement Gazette in late 19th century."The Argus" in the 19th century. The quarterly journal of the Freemasons carried the story of the sesquicentenary of the arrival of the Blshki's in Melbourne as their lead article. The business P.Blashki & Sons, est 1858 in still in business today. One of the oldest surviving businesses in Melbourne. See also the foundation of the Victorian Chambers of Commerce. Also the story of tobacco in Australia.


Blashki was a founder of the Chevra Kadisha, the Melbourne Jewish burial society. Jewish Aid, the first Jewish welfare organisation. The Victorian governernement then then inivited him establish a similar Board for welfare of the State. A long list of his secular and Jewish achievements are in official obituaries.

The site needs to be less personal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nedsfield (talk • contribs) 00:32, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

REPLY As things stand it reads like a badly-written family history article you would find on an amateur genealogy website. It is unreferenced and is not written from a neutral point of view. In short it needs a complete re-write. If, as you say, the man is notable then you should apply the same amount of effort that you put into this AfD nomination to the article itself. WP:BOLD - if you care about it, go fix it. --Simple Bob a.k.a. The Spaminator (Talk) 00:48, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete The only source is a self published family history. The office of justice of the peace does not establish notability. TFD (talk) 00:46, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Agree; The children's names are not important unless in their own right. I will be uploading the photo supplied, Courtesy of the Latrobe Library of Victoria, of the Opening of the City Court, Russell St, Melbourne, 20 January 1914. Blashki is in the centre. Attorney General, the Hon. D. MvKinnon, then the Chief Police Magistrate, P.J. Dwyer Esq, then Phillip Blashki, Chairman of the City Court Bench. To be uploaded in a few hours. I will also upload the photo of Blashki in regalia ss Hon. Past Deputy Grand Master, 1890. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nedsfield (talk • contribs) 01:08, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Phillip's biographer - Gael Hammer - is unavailable this week. However she will be happy to fix and augment the entry next week (starting 24th Jan 2011), and to learn the ropes as she goes. There are in addition two cricket references (Chris Harte, A History of Australian Cricket 1993 at p. 176 and by the same author "The History of the Sheffield Shield, Allen & Unwin 1987 at pages 32-33 which both describe the process by which the Shield was made and describe Phillip Blashki) and which I'm now trying to figure out how to link to the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lacygumboots (talk • contribs) 03:48, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Further note: I see that Phillip Blashki is cited in as its maker early in the page about the Sheffield Shield. Lacygumboots (talk) 04:03, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep - The current source in the article is somewhat problematic as it appears to be published by a relative, so its independence as a source is suspect. However, a google book search shows coverage in other books that are not self-published: [1], [2], [3], and [4]. The article needs a good deal of cleanup, but these sources support notability. -- Whpq (talk) 15:12, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Version 2 Hopefully this version is better! Mummy-whale (talk) 10:55, 18 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

WITHDRAW NOMINATION - good job rescuing the article, which is now looking healthy. I am very happy to withdraw my nomination for deletion. --Simple Bob a.k.a. The Spaminator (Talk) 07:13, 20 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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