Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Philipp Beigl (2nd nomination)

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The result was delete. Happy to undelete and draftify on request should someone be able to demonstrate further significant coverage that occurs after this date. Daniel (talk) 10:05, 19 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Philipp Beigl[edit]

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Was already deleted one year ago on the grounds of not satisfying WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTY. While Beigl has since made one appearance in the USL Championship, he still doesn't pass GNG. I can only find passing mentions of him (such as here). Nehme₁₄₉₉ 21:22, 10 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete and SALT - there is longstanding consensus that scraping by on NFOOTBALL with one or two appearances is insufficient when GNG is failed so comprehensively, as is the case here. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 21:40, 10 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@GiantSnowman: why would you SALT a player who has just made his first pro appearance? SALTing at this point says "I don't expect this player to become notable within the next years". —Kusma (talk) 09:08, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Because, if deleted, it will prevent it being re-created for the third time when deemed non-notable. Giant Snowman 11:19, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'd agree for a retired player, but notability can easily change over time, especially near the beginning of a professional career (as is the case here). Salting prevents the article from being created when deemed notable. —Kusma (talk) 11:30, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Quantity vs quality - Apologies, I was unaware that WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL were not mutually exclusive. What is the verdict when coverage of the subject is not significant in any given source, but subject is mentioned repeatedly? See: ABQ Journal article re: season preview, debut match report, preseason match report, mentions becoming 2nd-choice keeper, subject attending scouting trial, subject's Soccerway statistics page. Greater Luxembourg (talk) 22:05, 10 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @Greater Luxembourg: Per WP:GNG, "Significant coverage" addresses the topic directly and in detail [...] [it] is more than a trivial mention. Nehme₁₄₉₉ 23:11, 10 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - 2nd tier of the US should pass GNG with flying colours but I genuinely cannot find any in-depth coverage of this guy Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 11:48, 11 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:GNG as the sources shown are trivial mentions, primary sources or statistical database sites. Regarding his appearance in the USL, WP:NFOOTBALL does not supersede WP:GNG, so all subjects must have the significant coverage to pass WP:GNG regardless of professional appearances. The FAQ at the top of WP:NSPORT, which WP:NFOOTBALL is part of, makes that very clear. Alvaldi (talk) 12:06, 11 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - not sure we need to salt this one just yet but I agree that the coverage is below WP:GNG level Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 16:35, 11 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, passes NFOOTY with his appearance, and has over 27 appearances on the bench for pro games as a substitute keeper, notable enough for me.--Ortizesp (talk) 01:38, 12 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify, consider returning to mainspace if he plays more regularly in professional games. —Kusma (talk) 09:09, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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