Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Peta (cat)

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The result was Delete as a G12 copyvio, then recreate as a redirect to the main article. Black Kite 23:43, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Peta (cat)

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I'm sort of complexed about this one. It seems made up, but I can't quite nominate it for SD. The footnote is messed up also. Mm40|Talk|Sign|Review 01:02, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

I was monitoring Special:Newpages when I came across this. However, It has been a day, and the article hasn't changed much. Mm40|Talk|Sign|Review 23:32, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

• Neutral. I'm conflicted on this, too. Given the sources available for some other cats mentioned at Chief Mouser to the Cabinet Office, you'd think there'd be plenty of sources available for this one; the only sources I can find, though, are the BBC one mentioned in the messed-up footnote and this Sudan Vision article, and you'll note that these three articles are substantially the same, especially toward the end. Seems pretty notable, as cats go, but where are all the other sources? And should this be speedied as a copyvio? Probably, but I'd hate for that to happen before anyone has a chance to find more sources. AnturiaethwrTalk 01:22, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
• Delete. Lordy, if we had a page in Wikipdia on every famous person's pet we'd quintuple (at least) the number of articles. Sorry, but non-notable.Renee (talk) 01:29, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

• Comment. What confuses the issue for me is that I can't quite make out whether this is someone's pet. Having a cat at 10 Downing Street sounds like one of those traditions (like the ravens at the Tower of London) of which the British seem fond, and the article on Chief Mouser to the Cabinet Office says that the cats are actually civil servants. I can't be sure of that, though, and I don't know whether any of that makes these cats notable. Incidentally, if this article is deleted, I recommend also deleting Wilberforce (cat), Sybil (cat), and (the much better-sourced article) Humphrey (cat), whose notability comes from the same position. AnturiaethwrTalk 01:59, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

• Keep and reference better. We have Barney_(dog) across the puddle. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 02:09, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
• Merge to Chief Mouser to the Cabinet Office, as with the several others who are not expanded into articles. Seems to have been less notable for whatever reason, probably WP:RECENTISM, but basically we don't have enough for an article. --Dhartung | Talk 03:06, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
• Merge as per Dhartung. Editorofthewiki^{review my edits here!} 03:08, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
• Speedy close Article was three minutes old when it was AfDed. Not to go into WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, but I'll point out this is a bit of a borderline article- all Chief Mousers that have come after have articles; none that came before. Either way, give it a little time. JeremyMcCracken (talk) (contribs) 03:28, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I was monitoring Special:Newpages when I came across this. However, It has been a day, and the article hasn't changed much. Mm40|Talk|Sign|Review 23:32, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Of course not- you bit the creator. They haven't been back since. JeremyMcCracken (talk) (contribs) 20:01, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

A bit harsh to say you necessarily scared them off, but they indeed haven't made any more edits. JeremyMcCracken (talk) (contribs) 18:39, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp (talk) 00:00, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
• Keep It's the old problem of older stuff not being available online. Just because a reference isn't online doesn't mean one doesn't exists. The article itself states that there was significant newspaper coverage at the time of Peta's appointment. It just needs someone to find the relevant newspapers from that time and quote them as refs. Mjroots (talk) 15:41, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
• Put to sleep and delete (and do the same for successors). There doesn't seem to be much information showing Peta being notable for doing something other than what's being done by millions, if not billions, of felines do naturally globally. Aside from catching the odd mouse, what else (besides a ceremonial title) separates this cat from any living in a residence of a head of state or head of government? I fail to see it. B.Wind (talk) 00:28, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
• Delete as copyvio from here. When the copyvio content is removed, as it must be, there is nothing significant left and there are no other substantial sources. TerriersFan (talk) 19:06, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
• Delete. Are we really discussing the notability of a cat tht has nothing more for it other than being a cat? Even if the PMs cat... - Nabla (talk) 19:56, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.