Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Perturabo

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The result of the debate was NO CONSENSUS, which defaults to KEEP Paul August ☎ 20:28, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Perturabo

Submitted to AfD as a courtesy to User:Jondel, as I undeleted this article he deleted as an invalid speedy deletion. His reason was: "not notable" JesseW, the juggling janitor 07:40, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

• Comment - seems to be related to Warhammer, possibly. Probably non-notable... JesseW, the juggling janitor 07:40, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
• Delete as nn gamecruft, fancruft, or whatever. -- MCB 08:12, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Other founders of Warhammer 40k Space Marine legions have articles, no reason to delete this one unless we delete all the others. Since Perturabo founded one of the Traiter Legions as a Primarch, he's very much not gamecruft or fancruft. Should be treated no differently than character articles for other popular subjects.Nezu Chiza 08:17, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Any articles about individual characters relevant only to games that are played by a tiny minority of the population is pure fancruft. This is only here because this tiny minority is heavily over-represented among Wikipedians and Internet-users. And before anyone tries it; no, I would not vote to keep cruft relevant only to under-represented minorities. / Peter ^Isotalo 11:36, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
• Keep per Nezu Chiza and wikipedia is not paper. Kappa 16:38, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
• Redirect, apparently to Iron Warriors. Someone who knows about this would have to determine the best redirect. This article's content isn't very good, and putting this character in the proper context seems helpful. Friday (talk) 18:55, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
• Merege and redirect this wherever those in the know see best. No need for a breakout into its own article. Wikipedia is not paper, but atomisation of knowledge isn't helpful. Lumping this with related stuff adds context for those that find the following statement bewildering Since Perturabo founded one of the Traiter Legions as a Primarch, he's very much not gamecruft or fancruft. and makes for better articles. Oh, and this is not a vote for keep with no merege. Sabine's Sunbird 22:48, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. We should really encourage children to write more about their schools and less on games (especially wargames). May be merged into Warhammer articles. --Vsion 12:03, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
• Almost certainly just delete, or at best merge nothing coherent from here and redirect to Warhammer 40K per WP:FICT and being contextless gamecruft of secondary importance within its not-tremendously-notable system. Maybe someone could listify this and all the cited group to a List of founders of Warhammer 40k Space Marine legions. For my tastes, though, it's still too fine-grained for Wikipedia, which is WP:NOT an indiscriminate collection of information. Barno 05:49, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
• Keep in some form all but the least notable official canon fictional characters (WP:FICT). I recommend that we don't merge with the Warhammer 40K article since it is quite long already. This article needs serious cleanup however. Sjakkalle (Check!) 07:22, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. I'm slowly chewing through some of the Warhammer 40K articles and tidying them up (See Space Wolves and Ultramarines for examples of what I'm doing). Everything of relevance here is already in the mess that is the Iron Warriors article; I'll tidy that one up once a decision regarding this article is made. The material is canon, but as said by Sabine's Sunbird, there's better places for this material than an article on its own. Saberwyn 10:18, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
• Merge ··gracefool |☺ 17:29, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

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