Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Perfect Symmetry (song)

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The result was delete. with no objection against re-creation once it has been released and meets the relevant criteria StarM 04:44, 15 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Perfect Symmetry (song)[edit]

Song hasn't been released yet, only sources are primary. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 18:34, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as per Nomination. Theseeker4 (talk) 20:02, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Article in current state is not good enough. Recreate when more sources pop up or when the song is actually released. Tohd8BohaithuGh1 (talk) 20:15, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep It takes just as much time to add sources as it does to criticise. In fact, I'm adding one now. Notable song by notable band. U-Mos (talk) 22:25, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete -from WP:NSONGS: "Most songs do not merit an article" and "Songs that have been ranked on national or significant music charts, that have won significant awards or honors or that have been performed independently by several notable artists, bands or groups are probably notable." - this hasn't even been released, the only source is the band's website. JohnCD (talk) 22:34, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Clear disadvantage is given for almost non-US based bands, since it appears Grammys and MTV Awards are only notable for you. "Somewhere Only We Know" has won no award and that doesn't mean it is not notable. Your non-notability claims are absolutely irrelevant. Also, as per U-Mos.--Fluence (talk) 00:49, 11 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe the reason it hasn't won any awards is because it hasn't been released yet? Once it is released and it charts or wins something, I am pretty sure everyone here would say "keep", but that isn't the case right now. We ditch US song articles every day for the exact same reasons. Perhaps you should assume good faith. DENNIS BROWN (T) (C) 14:58, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, fails notability per WP:MUSIC#Songs & WP:CRYSTAL. Esradekan Gibb ^"Talk" 08:34, 11 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete It has a source for release but that doesn't make it notable. Not an anticipated album, not notable, just another single that is supposed to get released. Perhaps recreate if it actually charts. DENNIS BROWN (T) (C) 12:50, 11 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment According to WP:MUSIC#Songs you're falling in a contradiction since WP:CRYSTAL doesn't apply anymore. It has been officially announced.--Fluence (talk) 00:12, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I'm not in a contridiction. I knew it didn't fail wp:crystal and said "it has a source for release". Perhaps you mean this comment for someone else? DENNIS BROWN (T) (C) 00:41, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.