Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/People's Mojahedin Organization of Iran (Parviz Yaghoubi faction)

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The result was delete. ✗plicit 00:13, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

People's Mojahedin Organization of Iran (Parviz Yaghoubi faction)

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Another small group that never made any notable accomplishments, registered politically, fielded a candidate, participated in any election, etc. Notability is mostly assumed from interaction with People's Mojahedin Organization of Iran. An online search doesn’t give any additional hits aside from the only source already in the article (which lacks any form of substantial coverage). Fails notability (WP:GNG, WP:NPOL, WP:ORG, take your pick). Fad Ariff (talk) 11:52, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This is part of a number of recently created odd articles about groups that never accomplished anything:

Articles for deletion/People's Mohajerin Organization of Iran
People's Mojahedin Organization of Iran – Followers of Musa's Way
United Campaign for Fulfillment of the Working Class Aspirations
Group for the Combat for Emancipation of the Working Class Fad Ariff (talk) 11:55, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations, Politics, and Iran. Shellwood (talk) 12:18, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: This article was denuded of much of its content and most of its sources just ahead of the raising of this AfD with no effort to discuss the article on talk or clarify details. The first source, for instance, was deleted out of hand for having no title for its chapter in a journal, despite a page number being provided. While having no title is not ideal - this is exactly the sort of detail that should be carefully clarified and verified, not hastily deleted. I have restored the material, as appropriate for material within the remit of the post-1978 Iranian politics discretionary sanctions regime, pending proper discussion and consensus. Iskandar323 (talk) 14:04, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The first source doesn't have a title or author, and the other two sources you restored don't even mention the group. Also there are some WP:V violation concerns like the logo in the infobox (which belongs to the People's Mojahedin Organization of Iran, and none of the sources say it belonged to this group). Even with you restoring all of this questionable content, there is nothing in the article that indicates that the group was notable for anything (other than interacting with People's Mojahedin Organization of Iran, and that is not an indication of notability). Fad Ariff (talk) 11:57, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The first source has a page number, which is the most specific thing it can have, and it means that if you look up the journal, you can find its title and author. Also, having questions about sourcing does not demand automatic recourse to the deletion of content. This isn't a BLP. More prudent first steps are looking for fresh sourcing, raising a talk page discussion and tagging as citation needed. Iskandar323 (talk) 20:24, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Here's the bibliographic info: Momayezi, Nasser. "Decimation and Fragmentation of Leftist Forces in Iran." Journal of South Asian and Middle Eastern Studies 11, no. 1 (Fall, 1987): 83. It's on ProQuest at [1]. I've downloaded a copy of the article and am happy to email it on. The only relevant sentence I see on first glance is: In 1985 several members of the central committee of the Mujahidin in Europe--such as Parviz Yaghubi, Mahmud Azdonlu, and several others--announced their decision to leave the organization and to function separately.

Citation #4 is Alaolmolki, Nozar. Middle East Journal 41, no. 1 (1987): 94–95. jstor. I can't find anything relevant on pages 94-95 on a quick skim.

If AfD participants would like, next time I'm at the library I'll scan in the relevant parts of citations #2 and 3. KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 19:31, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for finding those and taking the time to cross-reference the material. I wouldn't deign to impose library errands on anyone, but feel free! Iskandar323 (talk) 19:49, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 14:21, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I am not convinced that this faction has any notability, and the sources are insufficient to show any notability under GNG/NORG. There's no good redirect candidate because the main MEK article (People's Mojahedin Organization of Iran) doesn't mention "Yaghoubi" at all, which further suggests that this group is not at all notable. Best, KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 19:33, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Agree with KevinL that the sources are insufficient to show any notability per GNG/GNORG. Some members of this group had links with the MEK, but that alone cannot make this group notable (and that's all we have here). Alex-h (talk) 15:37, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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