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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge‎ to George Town, Penang#Public transportation. plicit 12:31, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Penang Hop-On Hop-Off[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NOTTRAVEL. The only example of a hop-on-hop-off article I could find, they are genuinely non-notable Ajf773 (talk) 10:28, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Transportation and Malaysia. Ajf773 (talk) 10:28, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, articles cited (this and this establish notability. I don’t see how WP:NOTTRAVEL applies. Lately it’s been used to try to delete any sort of bus related article but that’s a misapplication of the policy - the policy discusses picking tourist attractions, including phone numbers, etc. this article doesn’t fall foul of NOTTRAVEL because it isn’t written as a guide. Finally, the author appears to have dismissed all hop-on hop-off services as non notable, a classic case of WP:IDONTLIKEIT. Garuda3 (talk) 10:46, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    A bus service is certainly capable of being notable, but I'm not entirely convinced this one is notable. The two articles in The Star are helpful, however. Open to being persuaded we have a GNG pass here. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 15:07, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    The service has received further coverage in 2019 and 2020 (this and this. Garuda3 (talk) 09:42, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Practically every major city with tourists has these. They're privately run services that would reasonably get some local news when they start, but I don't think the routes are notable. Reywas92Talk 18:47, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Whether something is common or rare has no bearing on whether it is notable or not. Garuda3 (talk) 09:41, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm disappointed the nominator failed to identify a merge target as an WP:ATD. The bus service is already mentioned at George Town, Penang#Public transportation. Garuda3 (talk) 09:43, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 09:19, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.