Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paynesville, California

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Natg 19 (talk) 00:49, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Paynesville, California[edit]

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This one proved difficult to search, as there is a much more prominent town of that name in Minnesota which very much wants to be in the search results. When all is said and done, however, the only evidence for it is a name on a topo map and a river gauge presumably nearby. The school building (an early education center) says nothing about being in this town, and while there are a few houses scattered about, when it comes down to it I just don't see the notability. Mangoe (talk) 04:11, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 05:24, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 05:24, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep It was evacuated in 1987, but was also described as a subdivision. [1] [2] A fire blew threw there: [3] And there is/was a church there: [4] Surveyed here: [5] A book references Paynesville too. [6] Probably a weak keep on GEOLAND grounds. SportingFlyer T·C 06:13, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Just upgraded to keep per CJK09. Easily meets WP:GEOLAND and notability for geographic places, which is a very low bar. SportingFlyer T·C 06:41, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. In addition to what SportingFlyer found, I found an LA Times article about the 1987 fire which describes Paynesville as a settlement. This Alpine County planning document refers to it as having been a town: During this period [1910-1950] the population was distributed between the towns of Markleeville, Woodfords, Paynesville and a number of other highway stops. A 1949 newspaper article refers to a man as being from Paynesville: Mr. Love will complete the unexpired term of Frank Payne, Paynesville, Calif., who resigned due to ill health. Altogether it's pretty clear that this location is a community (a very small one, no doubt) and not just a random name on the map. CJK09 (talk) 06:35, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Described here as a "community" and here as a "population center" and "settlement". This source writes: "Alpine County has the smallest resident population of any county in California... About half of these people live in the Carson River watershed, in or near the small unicorporated communities of Markleeville, Woodfords, Paynesville, and Fredricksburg". In 2009, Hazel Payne "died in the Alpine County home she and her husband built nearly three quarters of a century ago" in Paynesville.[7] Magnolia677 (talk) 10:53, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per the many sources that describe it as a settlement. TheCatalyst31 ^{Reaction•Creation} 13:34, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
comment I'm inclined to withdraw this, but as I cannot afford the rates that newspapers.com is asking to see much of this material, could some of you please go and update the article first? Mangoe (talk) 16:59, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Mangoe: I used Google and found plenty. Took about 60 seconds. Same deal at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Centerville, Alpine County, California. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:03, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Mangoe: Check out the Wikipedia library card, that's how I have newspapers.com access and it's been very helpful. SportingFlyer T·C 01:55, 23 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Mangoe: These are publicly-viewable clippings of the articles linked above: [8] [9] [10] –dlthewave ☎ 16:09, 24 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per the certainty this was a settlement per the sources described above. Oakshade (talk) 21:23, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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