Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paulo Romeiro

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The result was delete. Sam Walton (talk) 17:38, 16 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Paulo Romeiro[edit]

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I don't think Wikipedia should have an article on a living person that is totally unsourced. This seems to be translated from the Portuguese Wikipedia article which is also unsourced. Goggle searches turn up some books he has written and some news mentions, in Portuguese so I can not tell if it is the same person. Thoughtmonkey (talk) 13:05, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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needs sourcing User:Thoughtmonkey I totally take your point, it has no sources at all. On the other hand, Romeiro verifiably [1] is on the faculty of Mackenzie Presbyterian University and some of his several books sound scholarly(Evangelicos em crise) Is it usual to delete such articles, or to tag them for sourcing?E.M.Gregory (talk) 14:38, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The article has been tagged for lack of sources since 2011. My feeling is that the article is accurate and he is notable, but I don't think that is enough for WP to go on. Thoughtmonkey (talk) 17:39, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 11:37, 5 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment -- There is alsp an article in the Portuguese WP. I do not know that language, but it looks similar. That has 3 external links as a source list. Since this is on a Brazilian, I would sugggest that the Portuguese WP is better placed to judge his notability; and it has not AFD notice. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:05, 5 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Here are the links from the Portuguese article. They are presented as external links, not sources:

- - AGIR. Site do ministério de Paulo Romeiro, no qual há vários artigos dele e sua biografia.
  - Igreja Cristã da Trindade
  - Lançamento de Religião e Alienação, Editora Reflexão Thoughtmonkey (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 18:47, 5 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Each of those links is dead :-(. LaMona (talk) 00:50, 11 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

talk Here's the church website [2].E.M.Gregory (talk) 22:33, 11 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

And here's the link within that site about him [3] but of course this cannot be considered a reliable source since the church is his employer. It does say that he has written two books, both published by a religious publisher, Editora Mundo Cristão. I tried searching in some Brazilian newspapers that cover Sao Paulo, which appears to be where the church is, and came up with zero. I can find him on social sites (linked in, youtube, etc.) but not in reliable sources. So if someone has better access to Brazilian sources, they should speak up! I'm thinking that a churchman might be featured in popular magazines. LaMona (talk) 14:23, 12 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - no reliable sources given.--Rpclod (talk) 01:56, 6 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Needs RS. Thanks. Ism schism (talk) 22:25, 10 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The question in AFD is not whether the page has sources (it does not) but whether sources exist to establish notability. WP:GNG If you search on Paulo Romeiro + Brazil, little appears. But if you search on Paulo Romeiro + Brasil, it turns out that there is an enormous, Portuguese speaking country with a publishing industry in Portuguese. We could, of course, change the rules to exclude sources that establish notability in other languages. But until we do, this question needs to be decided with Portuguese sources.E.M.Gregory (talk) 21:26, 11 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I will take a swing at sourcing this page. Anyone with a google translate button (or a little Latin or Spanish) is welcome to help.E.M.Gregory (talk) 21:28, 11 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete He might be notable but right now controversial claims are being made about him (for instance him having a connection to the anti-cult movement) without secondary sourcing. Borock (talk) 01:49, 13 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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